Age problem...

[vera2013]

Pickering place in 1861 is here:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...8453&pId=14306


This is the summary of the area:
Screenshot 2020-08-25 at 19.59.11.png

Bishops Road, Pickering Terrace, Westbourne Grove Terrace, Westbourne Grove, Celbridge Mews are some of the roads that I can see

Nice one Carolyn. That's the one I thought more appropriate area for Ann. Camden Place and Gregory Place around that area. And it's in the Ecclesiastical District of St Stephen

vera

[vera2013]

here it is
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345961#z...2265&layers=BT

if that works

Great map

vera

[cbcarolyn]

I lived, worked, married and had dau all around that area 64-71. Last address W10.

I'll see if I can find map for what I think may be a more like!y Pickering Place altho the St James one good for William's barracks.

Vera

that must have been an experience, you moved to there? so not somewhere you knew before.

[vera2013]

that must have been an experience, you moved to there? so not somewhere you knew before.

Yes moved as a young girl to a job and stayed on. If you had gone into the Royal Oak many years ago a young blonde might have served you a drink. As I said memory !ane. NH S not good payers.

I digress. Still on the case Julie. Putting my flat shoes on.

vera

[cbcarolyn]

this is St james Square, although I can't pinpoint Camden place
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345964#z...3409&layers=BT

[vera2013]

this is St james Square, although I can't pinpoint Camden place
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345964#z...3409&layers=BT

St James is in Westminster. Across the Park if I 'm remembering correctly. Camden Place comes under Kensington/St Mary Abbots

Vera

[vera2013]

The Larkins seem to like Camden Place

1861

no 6

Larkin, James 65 b 1796 Ireland Labourer
Larkin, Nancy C 59 b 1802 Ireland Washerwoman

There are 2 deaths

James Larkin 1862 Kensington aged 66
Ann Larkin 1875 Kensington aged 73

And next door

no 4

Lodgers

Patrick Linkins ? Larkins 28 b 1833 Limerick Tailor
James Larkins b 1835 Limerick Tailor

Vera

[cbcarolyn]

Not even sure that I do! or do you mean Kate's parents?

yes I meant Kate's parents.

[Darksecretz]

The Larkins seem to like Camden Place

1861

no 6

Larkin, James 65 b 1796 Ireland Labourer
Larkin, Nancy C 59 b 1802 Ireland Washerwoman

There are 2 deaths

James Larkin 1862 Kensington aged 66
Ann Larkin 1875 Kensington aged 73

And next door

no 4

Lodgers

Patrick Linkins ? Larkins 28 b 1833 Limerick Tailor
James Larkins b 1835 Limerick Tailor

Vera

omg Vera you have found J&A from 1851 you are a star x they were living @ 6 before... They look like a family group to me, do you think so too? mum and dad then two brothers?

[cbcarolyn]

What a great find Vera, do you think they could be the parents, where would Ann be though?

[Darksecretz]

The Larkins seem to like Camden Place

1861

no 6

Larkin, James 65 b 1796 Ireland Labourer
Larkin, Nancy C 59 b 1802 Ireland Washerwoman

There are 2 deaths

James Larkin 1862 Kensington aged 66
Ann Larkin 1875 Kensington aged 73

And next door

no 4

Lodgers

Patrick Linkins ? Larkins 28 b 1833 Limerick Tailor
James Larkins b 1835 Limerick Tailor

Vera

and I can't find them on Ancestry!..

[Darksecretz]

and I can't find them on Ancestry!..

doesn't matter got them now.. had to use James b.1835 and they have him as coming from LERWICK Ireland.. [and someone has even corrected it but it isn't showing on searches!]

[Darksecretz]

What a great find Vera, do you think they could be the parents, where would Ann be though?

maybe staying with relatives?? back home in Ireland? dunno!

[vera2013]

omg Vera you have found J&A from 1851 you are a star x they were living @ 6 before... They look like a family group to me, do you think so too? mum and dad then two brothers?

Couldn't say for sure that they are a family group. Lots of houses in Camden Place so could be. However also more Irish people in 1861 than 1851. Not sure that they even belong to your Ann or is she Nancy! but I do know that even in my back in the day Irish people from a family tended to live in the same place when they came 'over'.
I would just keep looking and going for any additional info available at this stage.
I've not finished trawl yet. Fingers crossed something else will come up.

Vera

[vera2013]

What a great find Vera, do you think they could be the parents, where would Ann be though?

I think they could be grandparents even or maybe not connected at all.

There is a good chance Ann just came over after 1861 census, met and married William 1865 and then 1871 in Notts.

vera

[Darksecretz]

Couldn't say for sure that they are a family group. Lots of houses in Camden Place so could be. However also more Irish people in 1861 than 1851. Not sure that they even belong to your Ann or is she Nancy! but I do know that even in my back in the day Irish people from a family tended to live in the same place when they came 'over'.
I would just keep looking and going for any additional info available at this stage.
I've not finished trawl yet. Fingers crossed something else will come up.

Vera

yeah that'd be my luck Vera... probably not related at all, though it does lend itself very nicely with the names.
I know years ago when I first started looking I found a Fanny Larkin/s who was a needlemaker but I have never found that record ever again.

I think they could be grandparents even or maybe not connected at all.

There is a good chance Ann just came over after 1861 census, met and married William 1865 and then 1871 in Notts.

vera

guess it'll be a case of IF we ever find her.

[cbcarolyn]

it is still odd that no BC for Kate (not an obvious one)

[Darksecretz]

it is still odd that no BC for Kate (not an obvious one)

yes! she's probably not registered but has a baptism.. just not found it yet!.. it's just so bloody infuriating!

[cbcarolyn]

The Larkins seem to like Camden Place

1861

no 6

Larkin, James 65 b 1796 Ireland Labourer
Larkin, Nancy C 59 b 1802 Ireland Washerwoman

There are 2 deaths

James Larkin 1862 Kensington aged 66
Ann Larkin 1875 Kensington aged 73

And next door

no 4

Lodgers

Patrick Linkins ? Larkins 28 b 1833 Limerick Tailor
James Larkins b 1835 Limerick Tailor

Vera

Nancy could sound like Annie maybe especially in an accent not familiar?

Where did Patrick and James go to???? did find a James a tailor in Manchester widowed, but found no more, why are they hiding!

[Darksecretz]

Nancy could sound like Annie maybe especially in an accent not familiar?

Where did Patrick and James go to???? did find a James a tailor in Manchester widowed, but found no more, why are they hiding!

no clue! Nancy is a pet name for Ann/ie anyway. I thought I'd found them in 51/61 then nothing. I think that Patrick/James aren't children of J&A but had to step away as I was tying myself in knots!.. fresh eyes tomorrow!