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Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
That is a very interesting scenario to explain your Ann and very sad. Lots of clues to find out more but bang in the middle of census years unfortunately. Could it be her I wonder.
​​​​​​VeraJulie
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Originally posted by vera2013 View PostThere is a death on GRO for a female Larkin who was registered in the Strand area
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/c...xes_search.asp
cant do it the way you do it
There is also the birth of Ann Larkin on Ancestry 1845 Strand but no mmn and cant find a record at all on GRO
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource
and what could possibly be a baptism on FMP for Moorfields Roman Catholic Chapel
Ann Larkins born 21 Apr 1845 bap 25 May 1845 father Patrick Larkins mother Margaret Larkins ?mmn cant read the Latin Larkins
Sponsors Thomas McKeon and Margaret Nolan
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...2FPH3%2F039774
Vera
I'm not making much headway with Patrick and Bridget.. I have them in two census but after that nothing.
1851: https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...25&usePUB=true
1871: https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...25&usePUB=trueJulie
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Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post
um, so do you think that this is the mother and baby at the Wheatsheaf pub? [but the mothers name should be Ann?]
I'm not making much headway with Patrick and Bridget.. I have them in two census but after that nothing.
1851: https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...25&usePUB=true
1871: https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...25&usePUB=true
I think the Ann Larkin b 1845 June q Strand and Margaret Larkin d June q Strand age 35 relate to the people from the Wheatsheaf pub. Can't be sure about bap at Moorfields RC Church
However probably not yours as a tree has an Ann Larkin b 1845 m a William Jeremiah Page in 1862 which fits in better with the area of the Ann Larkin b 1845 at the pub. Her father too was a Patrick, Commercial Traveller.
Still think your Ann belongs to the North Kensington Irish who if I remember lived in very poor conditions, having settled there from another part of London.
I wonder if you were to get the Pension record/s, if Ann were to be even recorded in them, they would give any info. They should reveal info on the children ie Katie but doubt that would lead you to your Ann but you never know.
Vera
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Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
Hello Julie. Hope things are easier for you. Have you tried those cushions for relieving pressure?
I think the Ann Larkin b 1845 June q Strand and Margaret Larkin d June q Strand age 35 relate to the people from the Wheatsheaf pub. Can't be sure about bap at Moorfields RC Church
However probably not yours as a tree has an Ann Larkin b 1845 m a William Jeremiah Page in 1862 which fits in better with the area of the Ann Larkin b 1845 at the pub. Her father too was a Patrick, Commercial Traveller.
Still think your Ann belongs to the North Kensington Irish who if I remember lived in very poor conditions, having settled there from another part of London.
I wonder if you were to get the Pension record/s, if Ann were to be even recorded in them, they would give any info. They should reveal info on the children ie Katie but doubt that would lead you to your Ann but you never know.
Vera
Yes I do have a cushion, not that it is helping much
I haven't any clue whatsoever how to get the pension records, didn't even know they existed!
without a baptism for Kate I suspect I'm not going to find much more really.Julie
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Some links for Army Pensions possibly for William and Ann as a Widow
https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/C2316055
https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/C2316057
https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/C1355123
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A visit to Kew one day then Julie.
How are the volumes arranged? Alphabetical, or do you have to go through the entire volume till you find him?Carolyn
Family Tree site
Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff
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Originally posted by vera2013 View PostSome links for Army Pensions possibly for William and Ann as a Widow
https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/C2316055
https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/C2316057
https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ils/r/C1355123
Vera
Julie
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it says the records have not been digitisedCarolyn
Family Tree site
Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View PostA visit to Kew one day then Julie.
How are the volumes arranged? Alphabetical, or do you have to go through the entire volume till you find him?Julie
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Postit says the records have not been digitisedJulie
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I think to see something, not sure how much, you need a Reader's ticket. Otherwise you have to get a quote for a N.A. Researcher to access the record.
EDIT
There doesn't appear any guidance on how much and how you can get info sent. They have just repeated the guidance for paying a visit. Possibly an error.
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Service not being offered at the moment
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...earch-service/https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...earch-service/
You may have to be signed in to see this. Hefty fees but they will give you a quote before you commit
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Originally posted by vera2013 View PostService not being offered at the moment
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...earch-service/https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...earch-service/
You may have to be signed in to see this. Hefty fees but they will give you a quote before you commit
Vera
I guess it all depends if/when I can see if anyone would be good enough to look if they are going.. or possibly wait until the service is back up and running. Not quite sure if anyone that does look would be abe to get copies whilst there? I know it's all a bit moot atm anyway.
thanks Vera.Julie
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Originally posted by vera2013 View PostNo, not you Julie.
I think Annswabey visits.
I have a little exercise going looking at FMP census using addresses we know in Nth Ken. Found one James and Ann Larkin, Camden Hill but no little Ann with them.
Vera
just out of interest did you have a year for James/Ann in Camden hill?Julie
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Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post
ooh I'll have to wait and see... Oh that is interesting James & Ann... did you ever find out much about Virginia Vila/place on baptism record? [at least i think it looks more like Villa than Place]
just out of interest did you have a year for James/Ann in Camden hill?
1851 Census
8 Camden Place Kensington Place
James Larkin b 1798 Ireland Bricklayer's Labourer
Ann Larkin b 1804 Ireland
Piece No 1468
Folio 628
Page 6
FMP Schedule 24
Vera
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Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
I looked again and still thought it was Virginia Place. Carolyn did find a Virginia Place in Nth Ken. Only got to the C's on FMP. Looking out for those addresses we know and any I have picked up on reading about Irish people living in terrible conditions in Market Court, Jennings Buildings and Gardeners buildings. That's if the enumerater even ventured in because of the terrible conditions.
1851 Census
8 Camden Place Kensington Place
James Larkin b 1798 Ireland Bricklayer's Labourer
Ann Larkin b 1804 Ireland
Piece No 1468
Folio 628
Page 6
FMP Schedule 24
VeraJulie
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