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  • vera2013
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    Just an update. Checked out the hotspot for the Irish community in Marylebone. Poor enumerator. He noted in the census form a message to Registrar that he should be aware of the difficulties of one person assigned to the area as the forms had not been completed - were they ever? - and that not only did he not have a table to use, there wasn't even a chair. It took him 2 weeks to complete and even then he missed those at the back. And I didn't find one Larkin in the area.

    Still looking at the NA. Lots of possibilities for William but you would need to take your bed to wade through them if you visit. Not come across any 1860 attestations for the 59th.

    Vera

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  • cbcarolyn
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    Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

    fat lot of good THAT did.. sighs..... not in there anyway. I am sure it was in a brown envelope but it must have been at least A4 in size as the actual scans are A3 and massive... I found the ones for William Shelton [my other Gt grandads brother] I distinctly remember finding them IN the cabinet the last time I was in there. I get so cross with myself too...
    I know how you feel, I spent ages looking for something at weekend, gave up and then it was there right under my nose!

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  • Darksecretz
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    Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

    It isn't on my computer anywhere!.. I have gone through files that are years old and I can't spot it. I can see and have multiple copies of the one where he is said to be unfit [with the coat of arms on dated 2nd Dec 1870] but not the actual one where he signed up in the first place Nov 1860! I'm going to have to go looking in my filing cabinet... which fills me with dread and I know that I'll have to do that otherwise I won't rest!
    fat lot of good THAT did.. sighs..... not in there anyway. I am sure it was in a brown envelope but it must have been at least A4 in size as the actual scans are A3 and massive... I found the ones for William Shelton [my other Gt grandads brother] I distinctly remember finding them IN the cabinet the last time I was in there. I get so cross with myself too...

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  • Darksecretz
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    Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
    you need to stop looking then you will find it
    It isn't on my computer anywhere!.. I have gone through files that are years old and I can't spot it. I can see and have multiple copies of the one where he is said to be unfit [with the coat of arms on dated 2nd Dec 1870] but not the actual one where he signed up in the first place Nov 1860! I'm going to have to go looking in my filing cabinet... which fills me with dread and I know that I'll have to do that otherwise I won't rest!

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  • cbcarolyn
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    you need to stop looking then you will find it

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  • Darksecretz
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    Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

    I can't bloody find it... been looking for an age too.. I'm sure it was on his attestation paper..
    621 keeps popping into my head but I'm not sure it's that either.. I do have a paper copy and I think that is in my filing cabinet, which is a mare to get to atm.

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  • Darksecretz
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    Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post

    if you know the number I can search on fmp, it might bring something up, I did try 6371 - wasn't sure what that number was on the document.
    I can't bloody find it... been looking for an age too.. I'm sure it was on his attestation paper..

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  • cbcarolyn
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    Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

    as a side note he was in the 59th foot regt from Nov 1860 to Jan 1864 [I'm sure that I have his other regt number though I can't seem to find it! am sure it's only 3 digits too]
    if you know the number I can search on fmp, it might bring something up, I did try 6371 - wasn't sure what that number was on the document.

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  • Darksecretz
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    Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
    known addresses in London (amended)
    20 Nov 1860 - William joins army, Grenadier Reg Of Guards service no 1829​​​​​​
    31 Oct 1865 - St Stephen, Paddington, England both living at 38 Pickering Place (1st marriage)
    1866 - Kates birth - she says Bayswater on one census
    1868 Sept - Adalines birth address: 26 Camden Place, Notting Hill.
    1869 March Adalines Baptism 4 Virginia Place, Notting Hill (Cul-de-sac off Penzance Place which no longer exists)
    1869 - Windsor Barracks [wm] and Kensington for Ann second marriage The Royal Chapel, [in the Tower of London] [Whitechapel Reg Dist]
    1870 Sept - William Henrys birth address is Victoria model dwellings, Francis Street, Westminster; Baptism Horseferry Road Westminster (November)

    1871 census in Nottingham

    If the list of quarters is correct it would mean that William was in Dublin from 4 March 68 to 3 March 69 when he was in Chelsea for 6 months, then Windsor Barracks in Sept (I have not noted month of marriage) - that sort of fits with this time line
    as a side note he was in the 59th foot regt from Nov 1860 to Jan 1864 [I'm sure that I have his other regt number though I can't seem to find it! am sure it's only 3 digits too]

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  • cbcarolyn
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    known addresses in London (amended)
    20 Nov 1860 - William joins army, Grenadier Reg Of Guards service no 1829​​​​​​
    31 Oct 1865 - St Stephen, Paddington, England both living at 38 Pickering Place (1st marriage)
    1866 - Kates birth - she says Bayswater on one census
    1868 Sept - Adalines birth address: 26 Camden Place, Notting Hill.
    1869 March Adalines Baptism 4 Virginia Place, Notting Hill (Cul-de-sac off Penzance Place which no longer exists)
    1869 - Windsor Barracks [wm] and Kensington for Ann second marriage The Royal Chapel, [in the Tower of London] [Whitechapel Reg Dist]
    1870 Sept - William Henrys birth address is Victoria model dwellings, Francis Street, Westminster; Baptism Horseferry Road Westminster (November)

    1871 census in Nottingham

    If the list of quarters is correct it would mean that William was in Dublin from 4 March 68 to 3 March 69 when he was in Chelsea for 6 months, then Windsor Barracks in Sept (I have not noted month of marriage) - that sort of fits with this time line

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  • Darksecretz
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    Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post

    it def sounds like it was worth a mention - like you say that they approved!

    Oh - didn't know I need to do more - have 'shared' now, not done before either
    Brill thanks, though like you say not anything new, just confirming what we already knew.

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  • cbcarolyn
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    Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

    have requested access.. never done that before.

    Vera, I thought it said Protestant too....

    Carolyn would that indicate that this time he did have permission to marry?
    it def sounds like it was worth a mention - like you say that they approved!

    Oh - didn't know I need to do more - have 'shared' now, not done before either
    Last edited by cbcarolyn; 30-08-20, 12:02.

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  • Darksecretz
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    Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post

    ahh yes - as soon as I looked head said prostitute, then when I looked closely it made no sense, should have kept that first thought from a glance.

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  • Darksecretz
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    Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
    I have put download here - it is massive! I think that will work.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yRb...ew?usp=sharing
    have requested access.. never done that before.

    Vera, I thought it said Protestant too....

    Carolyn would that indicate that this time he did have permission to marry?

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  • cbcarolyn
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    Originally posted by vera2013 View Post

    Looks like Protestant to me

    Vera
    ahh yes - as soon as I looked head said prostitute, then when I looked closely it made no sense, should have kept that first thought from a glance.

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  • vera2013
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    Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
    vera2013 have ever visited the NA?

    Darksecretz it is such a shame that more are not available on line especially as it is free atm. Have you made any progress with the mini trees of Larkins?
    I haven't been to NA

    Vera

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  • cbcarolyn
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    if you can't get to big document I have added a clip of his entry to google https://photos.app.goo.gl/WaDJjHbD2GJ6uJBz6
    WO116 william Brown.jpg

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  • vera2013
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    Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

    Nope, not really, I kind of got sidetracked again by the military stuff, did you notice on the top of Williams record on #392?
    Looks like Protestant to me

    Vera

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  • cbcarolyn
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    Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

    Nope, not really, I kind of got sidetracked again by the military stuff, did you notice on the top of Williams record on #392?
    word in top left? - what does it say? I have no clue.

    It does say married with leave too - wonder why they need to say that.

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  • cbcarolyn
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    I have put download here - it is massive! I think that will work.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yRb...ew?usp=sharing

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