Gretna green wedding causing issues!

[queenbee]

Darksecretz due to laptop and phone limitations I can't view the forum on a laptop or ancestry Web links on ky phone. Please can you let me know the location of the 1851 option?

I can find the 1841 from the info in the citation.

Cheers

[Darksecretz]

Darksecretz due to laptop and phone limitations I can't view the forum on a laptop or ancestry Web links on ky phone. Please can you let me know the location of the 1851 option?

I can find the 1841 from the info in the citation.

Cheers

oops sorry QB is this ok?
Source Citation


Parish: Edinburgh St Stephen; ED: 13; Page: 18; Line: 19; Roll: CSSCT1851_180; Year: 1851

[Darksecretz]

just incase you cant find that this is what it says:

Name: Elizabeth Gelman
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Norfolk, England
Parish Number: 685/1
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Stephen
County: Midlothian
Address: 19 Jamaica St
Occupation: Ladysmaid
ED: 13
Page: 18
Household Schedule Number: 88
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1851_180

[queenbee]

Perfect, thanks Darksecretz

[GallowayLass]

Well that was a total waste of time! I’m not a happy camper. The records I wanted which had happily lived on the premises for nearly a century are now one of many, many record sets that are now stored offsite and I have to make an appointment to view. It could take a week or more till they are brought in. If they do arrive in time for this Thursday, I’ll get an email / phonecall.
I have booked for next Thursday.

[queenbee]

GallowayLass oh ******! Im so sorry you wasted a trip :( i just hope that there is something worth seeing in them when they do turn up!!

[Darksecretz]

awww that is such a shame GallowayLass fingers crossed for a fabulous outcome though when you do get to see them!

[queenbee]

Darksecretz just looked at 1841 and there is also a George Calver at the address. This is her mother's maiden name so must be related somewhere! Exciting!!

[queenbee]

Deleted as I was completely wrong!!!

[GallowayLass]

GallowayLass oh ******! Im so sorry you wasted a trip :( i just hope that there is something worth seeing in them when they do turn up!!

Worry ye not!
It got me out of the house and I got a good old catchup with some old colleagues. I was shocked to be told how many of them have left.

[cbcarolyn]

Well that was a total waste of time! I’m not a happy camper. The records I wanted which had happily lived on the premises for nearly a century are now one of many, many record sets that are now stored offsite and I have to make an appointment to view. It could take a week or more till they are brought in. If they do arrive in time for this Thursday, I’ll get an email / phonecall.
I have booked for next Thursday.

what a shame. queenbee what details do you have on the Gretna Green marriage? where did you find it? Ancestry say they have records but can't see it.

I did find this for her sister which I thought was interesting as there are other Calvers on there, absolutely no help for Elizabeth! https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ue&pId=4481628

[Darksecretz]

Darksecretz just looked at 1841 and there is also a George Calver at the address. This is her mother's maiden name so must be related somewhere! Exciting!!

I did see the Calver name and wondered if they were a relative, but didn't follow it up, as I was about to go and peg the washing out.

[queenbee]

what a shame. queenbee what details do you have on the Gretna Green marriage? where did you find it? Ancestry say they have records but can't see it.

I did find this for her sister which I thought was interesting as there are other Calvers on there, absolutely no help for Elizabeth! https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ue&pId=4481628

I've got a copy of the certificate provided by my inlaws and I've posted all the info on it. It's really quite sparce!

[cbcarolyn]

NB a George is with sister Maria re post 31 so looks like the right one.

except he seems to have married in 1830! so maybe not

[cbcarolyn]

Braiseworth is his town of birth

https://apps.bedford.gov.uk/grd/detail.aspx?id=12621

https://apps.bedford.gov.uk/grd/detail.aspx?id=12722

there are several baptisms to Robert and Elizabeth on Ancestry, not sure if you have them?
Joseph, James, Elizabeth, Emily

rest of family also in Eye in 1841 https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...d=162420578945

[Darksecretz]

Have you tracked the Calver family to see if the George in 1841 with Elizabeth is related? The 'other' George appears in 1851 with Maria Gilman in the household list, but he's too young to be the George with Elizabeth in 1841? [ and the fact that that George is still living with parents in 1851 too.

He may be a cousin or uncle? to Elizabeth.

[queenbee]

No I haven't managed to do much on the calvers, only sister Rebecca (became Gilman) and her sister Harriet b 1816. I seem to have attributed a daughter Emma to Harriet but I now can't see why!

any help appreciated

[Darksecretz]

No I haven't managed to do much on the calvers, only sister Rebecca (became Gilman) and her sister Harriet b 1816. I seem to have attributed a daughter Emma to Harriet but I now can't see why!

any help appreciated

so do you have Rebeccas marriage to Thomas Gillman? [don't want to be posting stuff you already have]

Did Harriot marry a Gooderham?

[queenbee]

Rebecca Calver married Thomas Gillman 8th June 1824 in Dickleburgh, Norfolk. Only got transcript.

currently only have Harriet on 1841 census

[Darksecretz]

Rebecca Calver married Thomas Gillman 8th June 1824 in Dickleburgh, Norfolk. Only got transcript.

currently only have Harriet on 1841 census

if you want to PM me with your email I'll send you the image from marriage, There is a witness called Harriot Gooderham to the marriage which made me wonder if was a married sister.