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  • vera2013
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    Originally posted by sookie23 View Post
    So it seems by what's on the certificate, but there is still no record of Gerald Carroll being born 8 Jan 1918.

    Not yet. Need to delve into records to try to find m between Condon and Carroll if she indeed married. That could be UK or even Ireland and then there is the hearsay re Boston! However father Patrick may turn something up. Sure Shoeingsmith is a military term.

    For info surname Condon predominant in Limerick Tipperary and Cork

    Vera

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  • sookie23
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    So it seems by what's on the certificate, but there is still no record of Gerald Carroll being born 8 Jan 1918.


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  • cbcarolyn
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    Originally posted by sookie23 View Post
    Its here

    John Kinsella 48 years widower 21 Greenhill park Harlesden father Laurence Kinsella fathers occupation Labourer

    Elizabeth Carroll 40 years widow address as above father Patrick Condon fathers occupation shoeing smith

    witnesses Mary O Mallery and Maurice Sheehy

    no idea if that should be O'Mallery but I've typed it as it is on the certificate.
    So does confirm that she was married to a Mr Carroll, just no idea where. good info worth getting

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  • cbcarolyn
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    NB that is only the Kinsella's with "Harbour" in address

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  • vera2013
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    On great Sookie. Lots of solid info to research.

    Vera

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  • sookie23
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    Its here

    John Kinsella 48 years widower 21 Greenhill park Harlesden father Laurence Kinsella fathers occupation Labourer

    Elizabeth Carroll 40 years widow address as above father Patrick Condon fathers occupation shoeing smith

    witnesses Mary O Mallery and Maurice Sheehy

    no idea if that should be O'Mallery but I've typed it as it is on the certificate.

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  • sookie23
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    WOW how many.

    I'm waiting patiently for Kinsella's will and his marriage record to Elizabeth.

    Catherine's first husband Walker died in 1937 the marriage record 1933 shows Marylebone his death is recorded in Willesden.

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  • cbcarolyn
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    Just no way of knowing how much Elizabeth knew/mixed with the family.

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  • vera2013
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    Lot of Kinsellas there Carolyn

    Not sure why Catherine does not appear until 1927
    James and John recorded on 1927 ER as NM which is Naval or Military voter

    For info

    Mary dies 1928 buried locally
    Catherine dies 1940 buried locally
    James died 1975 buried locally
    All Buried in same grave with one unknown child and man


    Vera

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  • cbcarolyn
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    I have no idea what this proves - but had fun downloading and compiling reg of elector!
    Name Residence Date Street Address
    James Kinsella 1923 37 Harbour Village, Goodwiok
    John Kinsella 1923 39 Harbour Village, Goodwiok
    Mary Kinsella 1923 39 Harbour Village, Goodwiok
    James Kinsella 1924 37 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    John Kinsella 1924 39 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    Mary Kinsella 1924 39 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    James Kinsella 1925 37 Harbour Village Goodwick
    John Kinsella 1925 39 Harbour Village Goodwick
    Mary Kinsella 1925 39 Harbour Village Goodwick
    James Kinsella 1926 37 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    John Kinsella 1926 39 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    Mary Kinsella 1926 39 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    James Kinsella 1927 37 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    Catherine Kinsella 1927 37 Harbour Village. Goodwick
    Mary Kinsella 1927 39 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    John Kinsella 1927 39 Harbour Village., Goodwick
    James Kinsella 1928 37 Harbour Village Goodwick
    Catherine Kinsella 1928 37 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    John Kinsella 1928 39 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    Catharine Kinsella 1929 37 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    James Kinsella 1929 37 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    John Kinsella 1929 39 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    Catharine Kinsella 1935 37 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    James Kinsella 1935 37 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    Catharine Kinsella 1938 25 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    James Kinsella 1938 25 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    John Kinsella 1938 75 Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1945 25 Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1945 25 Harbour Village
    Thomas Kinsella 1945 25 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    Thomas Kinsella 1945 25 Harbour Village, Goodwick.
    James Kinsella 1946 25 Harbour Village
    Thomas Kinsella 1946 25 Harbour Village, Goodwick
    James Kinsella 1947 25 Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1949 The Peak, Harbour Village
    Patrick Kinsella 1949 The Peak, Harbour Village
    Gerald Kinsella 1950 The Peak, Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1950 The Peak, Harbour Village
    Patrick Kinsella 1950 The Peak, Harbour Village
    Christina M. Kinsella 1951 The Peak Harbour Village
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1951 The Peak Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1952 The Peak Harbour Village
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1952 The Peak Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1953 The Peak Harbour Village
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1953 The Peak Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1954 The Peak Harbour Village
    Leo L. Kinsella 1954 The Peak Harbour Village
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1954 The Peak Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1955 99 Harbour Village
    Leo L Kinsella 1955 Harbour Village the Peak
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1955 Harbour Village the Peak
    James Kinsella 1956 The Peak Harbour Village
    Leo L. Kinsella 1956 The Peak Harbour Village
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1956 The Peak Harbour Village
    Catherine Kinsella 1957 42 Harbour Way
    Michael Kinsella 1957 42 Harbour Way
    James Kinsella 1957 The Peak Harbour Village
    Leo L. Kinsella 1957 The Peak Harbour Village
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1957 The Peak Harbour Village
    Catherine Kinsella 1958 42 Harbour Way
    Michael Kinsella 1958 42 Harbour Way
    James Kinsella 1958 The Peak Harbour Village
    Leo L. Kinsella 1958 The Peak Harbour Village
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1958 The Peak Harbour Village
    Catherine Kinsella 1959 42 Harbour Way
    Michael Kinsella 1959 42 Harbour Way
    James Kinsella 1959 Harbour Village
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1959 The Peak Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1960 99 Harbour Village
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1960 Harbour Village the Peak
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1961 The Peak Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1962 99 Harbour Village
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1962 The Peak Harbour Village
    Patrick Gerald Kinseila 1963 The Peak Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1964 99 Harbour Village
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1964 The Peak Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1965 Harbour Village N
    Patrick Gerald Kinsella 1965 Harbour Village the Peak
    James Kinsella 1966 99 Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1968 Cw Cottage Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1970 Harbour Village N
    James Kinsella 1971 Cw Cottage Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1973 The Peak 522 Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1974 The Peak Harbour Village
    James Kinsella 1975 Harbour Village the Peak

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  • vera2013
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    Here is the link to 1927 electoral roll

    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ccessSource&us
    ePUBJs=true&pId=3352692

    I had to rev up the laptop but FTF didnt recognise me

    VERA

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  • cbcarolyn
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    Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
    Will put up link.

    The 1927 shows both couples James and Catherine, John and Mary

    Subsequent to 1928 no Mary

    John remains in Godwick until early 1930's. Did he meet Elizabeth Carroll in Wales? If not what was she doing in Willesden which is a long way from Croydon?

    The Wills I believe taking longer. Last one I requested I had overlooked in emails when it came through

    Vera
    I did see a Carroll a few doors down in Harbour View, got me thinking

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  • cbcarolyn
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    Originally posted by sookie23 View Post
    Many thanks
    No matter what I did yesterday the address at Harbour View would not show up. Hoping it will play nice today.

    Still no sign of the wills.
    what document were you trying to find?

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  • vera2013
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    Will put up link.

    The 1927 shows both couples James and Catherine, John and Mary

    Subsequent to 1928 no Mary

    John remains in Godwick until early 1930's. Did he meet Elizabeth Carroll in Wales? If not what was she doing in Willesden which is a long way from Croydon?

    The Wills I believe taking longer. Last one I requested I had overlooked in emails when it came through

    Vera

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  • sookie23
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    Many thanks
    No matter what I did yesterday the address at Harbour View would not show up. Hoping it will play nice today.

    Still no sign of the wills.

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  • vera2013
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    Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
    I think I have got lost, need to re read thread.
    I have John Kinsella 1881-1945
    John marries Mary Kelly
    - Catherine Ann 18 April 1914-1986
    - John (1917 - haven't found birth)
    Marries Elizabeth M Carroll 1898 - 1966
    - her son is Gerald Carroll 1918-1963

    Gerald Carroll
    marries Elsie G Rogers b1918 (there is a child from this marriage)
    then marries Mildred Buckmaster

    - Catherine Ann 1914-1986
    marries William C Walker - 2 children JC and WG (1933 & 1937) not sure of deaths
    she then marries John Marsh (1915-1973) has one child John (1939-2004)


    on 1939 register 25 Harbour Village I have a bunch of Kinsellas not quite sure who these are yet, but address is same as posted by Vera
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...=1012828841659

    Household Members Age
    Catherine Kinsella 41
    Elizabeth Kinsella 18
    Thomas Kinsella 17
    This record is officially closed.
    This record is officially closed.
    Christina Kinsella 10
    Leo Kinsella 7
    Joseph Kinsella 5
    Oonagh Kinsella 3
    Janes Kinsella 23

    Hello Carolyn


    John Thomas Kinsella b 1917 Haverfordwest Reg mm n Kelly is recorded in GRO as Kinsalla

    The family in 1939 with Catherine Kinsella is I think a separate family to that of John Kinsella and Mary.

    Previous census records have James and Catherine Kinsella living next door to John and Mary ie 1927 census 37/39 Harbour Village
    A James Kinsella married Catherine Kelly in 1820 Haverfordwest reg.

    Not sure if James is John's brother

    John and Mary had one other child b 1912 Mary Ann marries a McCarthy
    Catherine Ann married Henry Marsh

    Vera

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  • vera2013
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    Originally posted by sookie23 View Post
    Vera am I right in thinking

    John Kinsella 1881-1945.....Married a Mary Kelly then Elizabeth Carroll?

    John and Mary had Catherine, John and Mary

    Ancestry is not playing nice today
    Yes all correct. However these are all records without certs so can never be 100%

    I haven't been able to find the marriage of John Kinsella to Mary Kelly.
    Mary Kinsella ne e Kelly dies in Pembrokeshire in 1928

    Vera

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  • cbcarolyn
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    I think I have got lost, need to re read thread.
    I have John Kinsella 1881-1945
    John marries Mary Kelly
    - Catherine Ann 18 April 1914-1986
    - John (1917 - haven't found birth)
    Marries Elizabeth M Carroll 1898 - 1966
    - her son is Gerald Carroll 1918-1963

    Gerald Carroll
    marries Elsie G Rogers b1918 (there is a child from this marriage)
    then marries Mildred Buckmaster

    - Catherine Ann 1914-1986
    marries William C Walker - 2 children JC and WG (1933 & 1937) not sure of deaths
    she then marries John Marsh (1915-1973) has one child John (1939-2004)


    on 1939 register 25 Harbour Village I have a bunch of Kinsellas not quite sure who these are yet, but address is same as posted by Vera
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...=1012828841659

    Household Members Age
    Catherine Kinsella 41
    Elizabeth Kinsella 18
    Thomas Kinsella 17
    This record is officially closed.
    This record is officially closed.
    Christina Kinsella 10
    Leo Kinsella 7
    Joseph Kinsella 5
    Oonagh Kinsella 3
    Janes Kinsella 23


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  • sookie23
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    Vera am I right in thinking

    John Kinsella 1881-1945.....Married a Mary Kelly then Elizabeth Carroll?

    John and Mary had Catherine, John and Mary

    Ancestry is not playing nice today

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  • sookie23
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    I'm just about to add all the details of the Kinsella to a tree and see what happens. I never thought of the daughters birth certificate.

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