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    Mark Osborn where did you go?

    I have been investigating this now for over a week and I'm still no nearer.

    can anyone else spot him? he was supposed to have died sometime between 1857-1861 census either in Basford/Mansfield or Nottingham district.

    he was married to Elizabeth Wildsmith [1836/pallots] and had several children. They lived in and area called Fullwood which is near to Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, but would probably come under Mansfield reg dist.

    Anne b.1837
    Hannah b.1839
    Martha b.1843
    Harriett b.1846
    Mary Ann b.1849
    George b.1857

    Martha marries in 1866 to Robert Wagstaff in the notice of marriage in the paper it states she was the 2nd daughter of the late Mark Osborn. I have scoured the index and tried all kinds of things but still can't find a death!

    1841: https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...87&usePUB=true
    Class: HO107; Piece: 861; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Sutton in Ashfield; County: Nottinghamshire; Enumeration District: 8; Folio: 58; Page: 9; Line: 14; GSU roll: 438907

    1851:
    https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...87&usePUB=true
    Class: HO107; Piece: 2123; Folio: 550; Page: 12; GSU roll: 87753

    in 1861 Elizabeth is lodging with her married daughter stating she is a widow.

    1861:https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...25&usePUB=true
    Source Citation Class: RG 9; Piece: 2426; Folio: 53; Page: 13; GSU roll: 542969

    sorry for the long post but I just wanted to make sure I had everything in the post.

    I cannot find a death/burial for Mark.
    Julie
    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

    .......I find dead people

    #2
    Have you tried looking for Mar* O*b*rn* ?
    That combo of wildcards should find him if he’s been morphed into a Marc, Marcus or Markus.
    The surname combo should catch Osborn, Osborne, Osbourn and Osbourne along with the same variants but using z instead of a.

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      #3
      Originally posted by GallowayLass View Post
      Have you tried looking for Mar* O*b*rn* ?
      That combo of wildcards should find him if he’s been morphed into a Marc, Marcus or Markus.
      The surname combo should catch Osborn, Osborne, Osbourn and Osbourne along with the same variants but using z instead of a.
      I've tried that many I can't remember! I'll give it a go..

      Julie
      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

      .......I find dead people

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        #4
        May help with date of death if it's him

        Notts Guardian 24 March 1859 Mark Osborn involved in a fight with Brother Henry, Henry's wife Ellen and 2 others Basford.

        Notts Guardian 30 March 1866. Martha 2nd dau of late Mark Osborn married Mr R Wagstaff

        Vera

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          #5
          Is this a possibility?

          Osborn, Male,
          Death: Apr 1859 Basford Notts
          Vol: 7b
          Page:80

          Beverley



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            #6
            Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

            I've tried that many I can't remember! I'll give it a go..
            nope all that I'm getting is mainly female results, Ancestry has done something to their algorithms, as I'm searching the same but not getting anywhere near with the results.
            Julie
            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

            .......I find dead people

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              #7
              Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
              May help with date of death if it's him

              Notts Guardian 24 March 1859 Mark Osborn involved in a fight with Brother Henry, Henry's wife Ellen and 2 others Basford.

              Notts Guardian 30 March 1866. Martha 2nd dau of late Mark Osborn married Mr R Wagstaff

              Vera
              I don't have a Henry as a brother for Mark at all. [though it might be that I haven't found him yet]

              but yes, the second one is right Martha married Robert Wagstaff.
              Julie
              They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

              .......I find dead people

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                #8
                Originally posted by Macbev View Post
                Is this a possibility?

                Osborn, Male,
                Death: Apr 1859 Basford Notts
                Vol: 7b
                Page:80
                I can't find that entry in the GRO index Bev [to see how old he was] but thank you very much for finding it, praps an email to Basford RO may be an idea to see if it they can shed some light on it.. or maybe report to the GRO to get it shown in the index ?
                Last edited by Darksecretz; 22-09-20, 17:11.
                Julie
                They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                .......I find dead people

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                  #9
                  I can’t find it in GRO either. FreeBMD has an image of the original index page and the entry is recorded again, immediately below the first one. Transcribers haven’t added any extra info.
                  FMP version of index doesn’t show the age at death either. They have been adding this from GRO online bit by bit.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by GallowayLass View Post
                    I can’t find it in GRO either. FreeBMD has an image of the original index page and the entry is recorded again, immediately below the first one. Transcribers haven’t added any extra info.
                    FMP version of index doesn’t show the age at death either. They have been adding this from GRO online bit by bit.
                    Thanks Chris, I have fired off an email to Notts CC. I have had dealings with them before about a missing entry so they might be able to help. I will also fire one off to the GRO and file it as an error report.
                    Julie
                    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                    .......I find dead people

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by GallowayLass View Post
                      I can’t find it in GRO either. FreeBMD has an image of the original index page and the entry is recorded again, immediately below the first one. Transcribers haven’t added any extra info.
                      FMP version of index doesn’t show the age at death either. They have been adding this from GRO online bit by bit.
                      I did wonder if they were male twins? as recorded twice?
                      Carolyn
                      Family Tree site

                      Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                      Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                        #12
                        There are two births for a Male Osborn in 1859 both in Basford in June quarter 7B 126 and 7B 80


                        Val

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post

                          Thanks Chris, I have fired off an email to Notts CC. I have had dealings with them before about a missing entry so they might be able to help. I will also fire one off to the GRO and file it as an error report.
                          just fired off error report to GRO, so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
                          Julie
                          They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                          .......I find dead people

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post

                            I did wonder if they were male twins? as recorded twice?
                            dunno.
                            Julie
                            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                            .......I find dead people

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Val wish Id never started View Post
                              There are two births for a Male Osborn in 1859 both in Basford in June quarter 7B 126 and 7B 80
                              thanks Val.
                              Julie
                              They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                              .......I find dead people

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                                #16
                                There are two births Osborn, GRO June q 1859 7B 126/7 Basford mmn Bramley

                                Vera

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by vera2013 View Post
                                  There are two births Osborn, GRO June q 1859 7B 126/7 Basford mmn Bramley

                                  Vera
                                  hmmm not looking good then is it? thanks Vera.
                                  Julie
                                  They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                  .......I find dead people

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                                    #18
                                    Do you know who ancestry member anccarolyn is? It’s the only tree for a person that could be yours. It’s private though. The member has been logged in today.

                                    Mark Osbourne
                                    Born: 1812 in Nottinghamshire, England
                                    You will also find attached to this person
                                    3 attached records
                                    3 sources
                                    71 people in this member tree

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by GallowayLass View Post
                                      Do you know who ancestry member anccarolyn is? It’s the only tree for a person that could be yours. It’s private though. The member has been logged in today.

                                      Mark Osbourne
                                      Born: 1812 in Nottinghamshire, England
                                      You will also find attached to this person
                                      3 attached records
                                      3 sources
                                      71 people in this member tree
                                      No, I have no idea... it seems so odd though that he has just 'vanished'.

                                      I have no idea where to look next.
                                      Julie
                                      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                                      .......I find dead people

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                                        #20
                                        ...that's me - was adding and playing last night to see if it came up with anything...ha ha didn't tick the "do not search" on tree box. Hopefully it won't be found - as there is nothing there - as I found nothing!
                                        Last edited by cbcarolyn; 23-09-20, 12:27.
                                        Carolyn
                                        Family Tree site

                                        Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                        Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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