What became of this family? All suggestions welcome!

[cbcarolyn]

It is interesting that Catherine even made the papers.

All of the records seem to fit. Perhaps although the job the same living was better?

[Darksecretz]

That's ok Janet in Yorkshire just glad to have helped and found some useful information re Michael. it'll be interesting to see what they perished from.

[teasie]

there is a death for a Charles Martin in 1888

Name Charles Martin
Age 44
Estimated Birth Year abt 1841
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place Gateshead, Durham, United Kingdom
Death Date Jun 1885
Inferred Death Place Durham, United Kingdom
Volume 10a
Page 506

Though whether this is THE Charles Martin, not sure.

Although you start off sayng 1888 I assume you mean 1885, per the actual record?

If so, then the address on the burial record was 36 Wylam Street, and there is a notice in the Berwick Advertiser 29 May 1885 "At 36 Wylam, Gateshead, on the 27th inst., Charles Martin, after a long and painful illness, employed in Leslies Yard, Hebburn, formerly of Berwick on Tweed"

So based on that I'd say its a different Charles Martin.

[cbcarolyn]

Although you start off sayng 1888 I assume you mean 1885, per the actual record?

If so, then the address on the burial record was 36 Wylam Street, and there is a notice in the Berwick Advertiser 29 May 1885 "At 36 Wylam, Gateshead, on the 27th inst., Charles Martin, after a long and painful illness, employed in Leslies Yard, Hebburn, formerly of Berwick on Tweed"

So based on that I'd say its a different Charles Martin.

I saw that article, but as the ages were so different, I assumed that they were not connected. Paper got the age wrong?

[teasie]

The article doesn't give an age?

In 1881 he's at 52 Wylam Street, Gateshead with wife Elizabeth (Proudfoot) and family. Charles Martin, Labourer, born c1841, Berwick.

His son (also named Charles) was born & died in 1883 at 62 Wylam Street, so the family seemed to move quite a bit but within the same street

[cbcarolyn]

doh, thought 36 was the age....now re read and it is the address!

[cbcarolyn]

Darksecretz had spotted the one with Proudfoot earlier in thread, he keeps causing problems.

[cbcarolyn]

is this him in 1911 https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...d=402499161386

[cbcarolyn]

Possible remarriage

Name Charles Martin
Registration Year 1890
[1890]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Tynemouth
Inferred County Northumberland
Volume 10b
Page 358
Records on Page (Name)
James Clough
Ann Isabella Dalton
Mary Ann Harbottle
Charles Martin

census https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...ccessSource

[teasie]

is this him in 1911 https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...d=402499161386

I'd dismissed that man previously as in 1901 he has a 7-year-old daughter named Elizabeth, but he might actually be worth looking at again as there's an apparent connection back to Blyth:

1901 at 20, Laburnum Terrace, Hurst, Northumberland - RG13/4836/82/36

Charles Martin 57 Shifter in Coalmine born Bedlington, Northumberland
Ann J Martin 54 wife b Seghill, Northumberland
George Martin 19 son Waggon man in coalmine born Blyth, Northumberland
Elizabeth Martin 7 daughter born Blyth

[cbcarolyn]

I tried to find Elizabeth birth to get MMN but didn't.

[teasie]

I cant find a suitable birth for her either, although I think George might have later used the name George McLean/McLane Martin

I think my transcription as Ann J Martin should actually be Ann I (as in the marriage between Charles Martin & Ann Isabella Dalton). Which then brings me to this:

1881 at 7 Skinners Lane, Workington, Cumberland
Thomas Dalton 33 Steel Moulder b Sebergham? Cumberland
Ann I Dalton 33 wife b Seghill, Northumberland
Mary A Dalton 9 daur b Wallsend, Northumberland
John A Dalton 7 son b Walker, Northumberland
Sarah J Dalton 1 daur b Workington, Cumberland

The children’s birth registrations show mmn as CROZIER, and Thomas Dalton married Annie Isabella Crozier in 1871, Tynemouth registration district.

Interesting that the Dalton family are also in Cumberland though, so perhaps this marriage is 'the' Charles Martin?

[Darksecretz]

Although you start off sayng 1888 I assume you mean 1885, per the actual record?

If so, then the address on the burial record was 36 Wylam Street, and there is a notice in the Berwick Advertiser 29 May 1885 "At 36 Wylam, Gateshead, on the 27th inst., Charles Martin, after a long and painful illness, employed in Leslies Yard, Hebburn, formerly of Berwick on Tweed"

So based on that I'd say its a different Charles Martin.

Yes, sorry about that. Not sure where my head was at.