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    #21
    Originally posted by rankpin View Post
    The forum wont let me view any of your attachments. Any idea why ?
    There are currently limits as to what a new member can and cannot do, but actually I can't see the second attachment either ... I will have a look..

    If i click on the link I can see it, but I am not sure that Scotland's people allow the copying of their images?
    Caroline
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      #22
      Originally posted by Caroline View Post
      There are currently limits as to what a new member can and cannot do, but actually I can't see the second attachment either ... I will have a look..

      If i click on the link I can see it, but I am not sure that Scotland's people allow the copying of their images?
      UPDATE: I have had a look and the Copyright policy there is:

      All content available on this website

      Visitors to this website are granted permission to access this material, to download and copy such material onto electronic, magnetic, optical or similar storage media and to make printed copies of any such downloaded material, provided that such activities and copies are for non-commercial private study and research only.
      The only exception to this are record agents working on behalf of clients who may pass content on to their client who in turn is bound by these terms and conditions.

      Putting them here is a grey area methinks? It goes on to allow max 20 images per website.

      https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/copyright
      Caroline
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          #24
          Esquire - a polite title appended to a man's name when no other title is used, typically in the address of a letter or other documents.

          What were the occupations of Margaret's husband Leslie and that of his father on the marriage certificate?
          Kat
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            #25
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              #26
              Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post
              Esquire - a polite title appended to a man's name when no other title is used, typically in the address of a letter or other documents.

              What were the occupations of Margaret's husband Leslie and that of his father on the marriage certificate?
              Last edited by GallowayLass; 03-06-19, 15:04.

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                #27
                Record Transcription:
                1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
                Barony, Glasgow Central, Lanarkshire, Scotland


                First name(s) Ann
                Last name Jack
                Relationship Inmate
                Marital status Widow
                Sex Female
                Age 74
                Birth year 1787
                Occupation Dom Serv
                Birth town Glasgow
                Birth town as transcribed GLASGOW
                Birth county Lanarkshire
                Kat
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                  #28
                  She must have gone out to work or taken a live in position to support herself after she was bereaved.

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                    #29
                    in the opening post there is reference to James Jack, "steward". Steward could have been referring to a land steward, bailiff - have a look to see what estates/large farms there were in the relevant area and then see if you can find any appropriate estate records.

                    Jay
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                      #30
                      That's good to know. :)
                      Caroline
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                          #32
                          Leslie Rankin was a House Carpenter and his Father James Rankin was an architect.

                          For reference, here's the newspaper announcement from Leslie Rankin's local newspaper in County Londonderry-
                          Coleraine Chronicle, 22 Sept.1849: Married- At Garvagh, county Derry, on the 8th inst., by the Rev, Mitchell Smyth, Mr. Leslie Rankin, builder, to Margaret, second daughter of James Jack, Esq., Glasgow.

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                            #33
                            That fits with the baptisms in post #3. Marion was the eldest girl, then Margaret.

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                              #34
                              Suppose margaret could have said he was an esquire? Maybe she didn't know his actual occupation or was bigging him up to impress?

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                                    #37
                                    Yes, it does still exist, both bride and groom signed their own names. The witnesses were a Robert Robertson and a John someone, cant decipher the second name, but definitely not Jack.

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                                      #38
                                      Can you put up a screenshot of the parish record?
                                      Kat
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                                        #39
                                        See my post #29
                                        IF James Jack was a land steward, in the employ of a wealthy Scottish landowner, then it is quite possible that the same land owner also had property in Ireland, to which his steward travelled from time to time. This COULD have been how his daughter met and married someone from Ireland.
                                        At that time Ireland was part of the UK; many land/property links between Scotland and Ulster, of which Co Londonderry was a part.

                                        Jay
                                        Janet in Yorkshire



                                        Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                                          #40
                                          Esq is merely a written honorific, used where the writer does not know the social/professional standing of the person and does not wish to give offence. Exactly what a newspaper might do. It doesn't have any other significance in that situation.

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