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    #21
    There’s no cert. online but this is transcription of the above marriage. There are two transcriptions of the same entry because a mistake was made with the bride’s forename as Jepy. That one has an extra detail that her father Thomas Lockyer is deceased.

    First name(s) Matthew
    Last name Atkinson
    Name note -
    Age 22
    Marriage year 1877
    Marriage date 15 Sep 1877
    Marriage place Lanchester
    Father's first name(s) John
    Father's last name Atkinson
    Spouse's first name(s) Jessy
    Spouse's last name Lockyer
    Spouse's birth year 1854
    Spouse's birth date 1854
    Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
    Spouse's father's last name Lockyer
    Residence Lanchester, Durham, England
    County Durham
    Country England
    Record set England Marriages 1538-1973

    also an index record of Matthew’s military service

    First name(s) Mathew
    Last name Atkinson
    Birth year 1854
    Birth parish Ryhope
    Birth town Sunderland
    Birth county Durham
    Birth country England
    Service number 242
    Regiment Durham Artillery
    Year 1883
    Attestation date 17 Apr 1883
    Attestation age years 29
    Attestation age months 2
    Attestation service number 242
    Attestation corps 2nd Bde Northn Divn R A Regiment
    Document type Attestation
    Series Wo 96 - Militia Service Records 1806-1915
    Archive
    The National Archives
    Archive reference WO 96
    Box 1337
    Box record number 63
    Record set British Army Service Records
    Last edited by GallowayLass; 11-02-20, 10:17. Reason: Additional info

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      #22
      Hi Lin

      Is there a doc for Phillip Cutliffe Lawrence as well, the other crewman who is commemorated at Wilford Hill?
      Elaine

      Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

      http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
      http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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        #23
        1881 Mathew and Jessie Atkinson are at Greencroft Cottages, Greencroft, Lanchester, Durham, England
        1891 Matthew and Jessie Atkinson are at Green Croft, Greencroft, Lanchester, Durham, England. Henry is there.
        1901 Matthew and Jessie Atkinson are at Brick Row, Tantobie, Tanfield, Lanchester, Durham, England. Henry is Henery.

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          #24
          Jessie must have died 1901 - 1911 as there is a new wife Emma born Derbyshire whereas Jessie has been consistently born Devonshire. He must have made a right muck up of the schedule as he says he has been married 40 years. The number of children are 5; 3 living and 2 deceased. That’s wrong as previous censuses have more than that. There are 3 still at home though which are also on previous censuses. No Henry though. Address is same as 1901 8 Brick Row Tantobie, Tanfield, Durham, England.

          Jessie died 1903

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          Last edited by GallowayLass; 11-02-20, 10:46.

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            #25
            Thanks Lass
            Elaine

            Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

            http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
            http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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              #26
              I am b*****ed if I can tie up Henry in 1911 by which time surely he must have been married to Elizabeth Ann as Robert is supposed to have been born c.1912. I have tried him single or married and can’t get a satisfactory match nor can I find a policeman of that name in County Durham. I have been using FMP.

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                #27
                Woo hoo!!! Durham County Record Office have what you need http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk...e/10612/Police



                My gt. uncle was a policeman in Cheshire and his personnel record had the details of his wife and children. Hopefully Durham records will have the same. One for Wulliam maybe if he is not too far away?

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                  #28
                  The link opens but not this part


                  Attachment 20540
                  Elaine

                  Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                  http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                  http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                    #29
                    This is the Henry I found in the paper
                    Attached Files
                    Elaine

                    Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                    http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                    http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Elaine View Post
                      The link opens but not this part


                      Attachment 20540
                      Is that any better?
                      7B88323A-0494-47D1-AA24-C1E465C2BFDE.jpg

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                        #31
                        Originally posted by GallowayLass View Post
                        Woo hoo!!! Durham County Record Office have what you need http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk...e/10612/Police

                        [ATTACH=CONFIG]20540[/ATTACH]

                        My gt. uncle was a policeman in Cheshire and his personnel record had the details of his wife and children. Hopefully Durham records will have the same. One for Wulliam maybe if he is not too far away?
                        They're open Mon-Weds each week so I could go next week if you're able to identify exactly what I should ask/look for - haven't been to the Durham RO before - I live in the only part of the country where my wife and I don't have ancestors! If they're booked up it'd have to wait until my Easter holidays.

                        Please pm me to make sure I sure I see it!
                        Kind regards,
                        William
                        Current focus of research: The Macleods of Lewis, especially those of the Point district.
                        Of particular interest are Macleod families with men by the name of Torquil.
                        Please see my user page for more detail...and pm me if we might share research!

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                          #32
                          Sent you a copy by e-mail.

                          Will look for the other crewman now,
                          Lin

                          Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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                            #33
                            2nd e-mail sent.
                            Lin

                            Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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                              #34
                              I have tried 1911 census on both ancestry and FMP for a Henry (and variants) Atkinson (and variants) both single and married in every place mentioned in the article but zilch. I’ve checked the occupations of all of them and can’t find anything remotely like a policeman - have tried *pol*, const*, serg*, officer. Where the heck is he??

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                                #35
                                I can't decide on birth year. Newspaper report says 55 - 27 years in force, making him 28 when he joined.

                                newspaper report dated 1935 so born 1880

                                But the 1939 reg that GL found says 28 Sept 1887

                                or am I going wrong somewhere?

                                here is a 1911 policeman, but single
                                https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...=successSource

                                Name: Henry Atkinson
                                Age in 1911: 29
                                Estimated birth year: abt 1882
                                Relation to Head: Boarder
                                Gender: Male
                                Birth Place: Consett, Durham, England
                                Civil Parish: Ryton
                                Street address: 9 Brettanby Gardens Ryton on tyne
                                Marital status: Single
                                Occupation: Policeman
                                Registration district: Gateshead
                                Registration District Number: 557
                                Sub-registration district: Winlaton
                                ED, institution, or vessel: 23
                                Piece: 30530
                                Carolyn
                                Family Tree site

                                Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                                  #36
                                  Well done Carolyn. I was using his supposed birthdate +/-2 so missed that one. I wonder if Robert Atkinson was illegitimate and took on Henry’s name after he married Robert’s mother?

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                                    #37
                                    Here is another police sergeant retired in West Hartlepool born 1881

                                    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...793.1535224975

                                    wife Emily though

                                    so maybe the one I found is not our man
                                    Last edited by cbcarolyn; 11-02-20, 17:11.
                                    Carolyn
                                    Family Tree site

                                    Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                                      #38
                                      Thanks everyone, am going to have a look over everything later but at least I know 1939 at the Red Lion is right, hopefully the memorial people will get back to me. Need to look at trade directories I think too, really appreciate the help
                                      Elaine

                                      Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                                      http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                                      http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                                        #39
                                        I am thinking the newspaper article matches the records I found.

                                        and the Red Lion one with Elizabeth is another one, so maybe place of birth is not local? There is a death that matches the 1939 birth date in Cheltenham.
                                        Carolyn
                                        Family Tree site

                                        Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                        Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                                          #40
                                          How about this one?

                                          First name(s) HENRY
                                          Last name ATKINSON
                                          Marriage quarter 4
                                          Marriage year 1911
                                          Registration month -

                                          MarriageFinder ™
                                          HENRY ATKINSON married one of these people
                                          Frances Murray, Elizabeth A Todd
                                          District Newcastle upon Tyne
                                          District number -
                                          County Northumberland
                                          Country England
                                          Volume 10B
                                          Volume as transcribed 10B
                                          Page number 52
                                          Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

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