Help badly needed please

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There is also an Isabella Sillitoe as a witness, on a marr cert for one Mary's children. Could Mary be with her on the 71/81 census? It seems that Mary is with her family on 61 only. Margaret is indeed, I think, another child as there are bapts on IGI.

[Little Nell]

Do you know who Isabella is?

IGI has
Isabella Shillito
Christening: 13 JUL 1856 St Peter'S, Liverpool, Lancashire
Father: Henry Shillito
Mother: Mary Elizabeth Shillito
Batch: C044145

If this is the witness, she can't be Mary Agnes' sister, but she could be a cousin?

[Little Nell]

Baptism for Margaret:


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MARGARET ANN SILLITOE Birth: 05 FEB 1862
Christening: 16 MAR 1862 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: WILLIAM SILLITOE
Mother: ANN
Batch No.: P020945

[boxer]

No, sorry she is just a witness that's all I know. I haven't been able to place her in the family yet. Yes it seems likely she is a cousin, so the plot thickens! So I presume that Henry could be William's brother!!

thanks very much for the bapt, great to have.

[Little Nell]

and Richard:

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RICHARD SILLITOE
Birth: 14 AUG 1859
Christening: 28 AUG 1859 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: WILLIAM SILLITOE
Mother: ANN
Batch No.: P020944

[Little Nell]

JOSEPH FREDERICK SILLITOE
Birth: 09 APR 1871
Christening: 28 AUG 1871 Saint Peter, Liverpool
Father: WILLIAM SILLITOE
Mother: ANN
Batch No.: P020949

[Little Nell]

But of course we don't KNOW that these baptisms, which tie in with census familes Elaine found, are the right set of Sillitoes!

Mary Agnes, if her father was a labourer, would have been out to work at the age of about 13, so unlikely to be living at home in 1871, making it harder to find her. At least her surname isn't Smith!

[Elaine ..Spain]

But of course we don't KNOW that these baptisms, which tie in with census familes Elaine found, are the right set of Sillitoes!

Exactly! :(

[boxer]

No, but Sillitoe has been just as hard to find, with so many errors to consider. It would be great to find Mary, but I may never know. At least there is one census she is with her family, which I think is correct.

[Elaine ..Spain]

Hi

I have been trying to find my gg gmother Mary Agnes Sillitoe. She says she was born Cheshire c 1864.

Going back to the beginning. Where does she say she was born in Cheshire?
Do you have a 1891 or 1901 census for her?

[boxer]

1901, transcribed wrong, Agnes Haighes! (She marr William Hayes, who was not there at the time, he was working in Barrow in Furness.)

Born Seacombe, Cheshire.

1891 RG12 piece 2896 f85 p13. I haven't the census just the transcribed page for William Hayes as Head, wife Agnes, so can't be sure what she put for birthplace, sorry.

[Elaine ..Spain]

1891 census ref is RG12; Piece: 2896; Folio 84; Page 13

- and we have Agnes born 1864 Birkenhead Cheshire.

Maybe a search for Agnes, rather than Mary, on previous census might turn up something.

[Elaine ..Spain]

1901 census
RG13; Piece: 3405; Folio: 75; Page: 42.
transcribed as Haiges

- Agnes Haiges b 1862 Seacombe

[boxer]

Sorry about the folio, misread it, not too clear!

[boxer]

Yes, that's what I found. So Mary/Agnes as she was calling herself . This is a far as I'ce got with her, she has been so difficult to trace. Haighes was so hard as you can imagine, to find.

[Little Nell]

No Agnes Sillitoe baptisms on IGI in either Lancs or Cheshire, or in birth index. I also tried lookng for Shil* without success.

I am now wondering if she was born with different surname and William Sillitoe was her stepfather.

[Elaine ..Spain]

Trying to work along the same lines Nell - somewhat unsuccessfully at the moment!

[Little Nell]

Seacombe, which is where she says she was born in 1901, is just north of Birkenhead, where she says she was born in the 1891 census. Both are of course just across the water from Liverpool, so perhaps the Liverpool Sillitoes do tie in somewhere.

[boxer]

Possibly? But there is a marriage for William Silitoe and an Ann Kelly 1853 St Nicholas Liverpool, which could be correct as son James bc 1855.

I haven't found a birth reg for MAry Agnes either????

[boxer]

And Mary was the second child seemingly.