Mary Marriot unsure of date of birth?

[Darksecretz]

I've been battling this now for a couple of weeks. Mary Marriot was the daughter of Thomas & Hannah Marriot. She was baptised at St Marys Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire. I'm having a bit of trouble trying to find her parents' marriage... and not having a lot of luck with that. I've got Marys's baptism record but am having a bit of difficulty deciphering the actual DOB. Can anyone else read it please - I've circled the record in yellow that I'm having trouble with. I can see that she was bapt 18th Jan 1734/5.
this is the link to the actual record on Ancestry.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/1018105:61838?ssrc=pt&tid=21707627&pid=312152792039

Mary Marriot bapt.jpg

thank you in advance.

[PhotoFamily]

I'm interpreting "10ber" as October...so born October 19th. George, the next entry has the same birth month.

[PhotoFamily]

Hmm. FS says that the BT for Sutton in Ashfield is transcribed/indexed, but I'm not seeing them pop up on an FS search.

[PhotoFamily]

delete. so wrong. well, maybe, but with problems.

Thomas Merriot

Male

Hannah Tew

Female

Marriage

29 Aug 1720

Matlock, Derbyshire, England

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So, FS maps says Matlock is 12.39 miles from Ashfield. Do you know of other children in the family, that might give a clue as to when the marriage took place?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJHS-R4D

[Darksecretz]

Hmm. FS says that the BT for Sutton in Ashfield is transcribed/indexed, but I'm not seeing them pop up on an FS search.

Tell me about it! I've been going batty trying to look on FS for ANYTHING and coming up with a big fat nada!

I have just discovered though that '10 ber' was the old name for December! who knew?? not me... I did think initially like you, 10th month October surely... er nope!

I struggle so much now trying to search FS, it was so easy before, but now..nothing matches with my search criteria.

[PhotoFamily]

In this record of that marriage, his surname is transcribed "Merrick"

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KBFH-S1J

[PhotoFamily]

... '10 ber' was the old name for December! ...

Oh, yeah - "Oct" would be prefix for 8 (like octopus), "Dec" prefix for ten (like decimal).

[Darksecretz]

In this record of that marriage, his surname is transcribed "Merrick"
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KBFH-S1J

I'm not sure that is them tbh, Matlock is praps 20miles from SIA.... I have their first child Elizabeth being 1730-1730.

I'll have to have a look tomorrow, I need to get to bed as I'm up at 5am, sons just gone to work.

Thank you for looking x

[PhotoFamily]

OK, Ancestry has the Thomas Merriot/Merrick record, which simply states there was a marriage between the two of them without mentioning the B&G's parishes.

However, I didn't find anything to say that it is a BT or PR.

Then interestingly, there is this record

Thomas Merriott

28

Marriage

1692

29 Aug 1720

Matlock, Staffordshire, England

Sutton in Ashfield

Hannah Sow

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1071838:62248?tid=&pid=&queryId=308dee1e5bf4956a57f7be5d02f5876f&_phsrc=PYi4&_phstart=successSource

https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/7721528?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a2272636e554155666a696a495451394138567751306a324f5073696553585161454255754d6d5734344638593d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d

Not sure what to make of that. How would Staffordshire play?

[PhotoFamily]

Not sure, but I expect it came from the marriage licence that FS has indexed
Thomas (age 28) married <sic> Hannah Sow (age 19) on 29 August 1720 in Matlock, Derbyshire, England. Spouse's Residence Place: Sutton in Ashfield

Marriage: England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944
citing Marriage License, Matlock, Derbyshire, England, Staffordshire & Stoke on Trent Archive Service, Stafford;
FHL microfilm 7,618,964
Thomas Merriott (28) marriage to Hannah Sow (19) on 29 Aug 1720 in Matlock, Derbyshire, England.

So, not really a marriage record, but rather the index to the licence. A licence would explain why it was in Staffordshire, too.

ETA - apparently the record is on FMP - could someone do a look up?

[Sylvia C]

This is what I'm finding on FMP

Thomas Merriott in 1720

Staffordshire, Dioceses Of Lichfield & Coventry Marriage Allegations And Bonds, 1636-1893
Matlock, Derbyshire, England View original record

First name(s)	Thomas
Last name	Merriott
Age	28
Birth year	1692
Marriage year	1720
Marriage year as transcribed	1720
Marriage date	29 Aug 1720
Marriage place	Matlock
County	Derbyshire
Residence parish	Sutton in Ashfield
Spouse's first name(s)	Hannah
Spouse's last name	Sow
Spouse's age	19
Spouse's birth year	1701
Spouse's residence parish	Sutton in Ashfield
Country	England
Record set	Staffordshire, Dioceses Of Lichfield & Coventry Marriage Allegations And Bonds, 1636-1893
Category	Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory	Parish Marriages
Collections from	England, Great Britain

First name(s)	Hannah
Last name	Sow
Age	19
Birth year	1701
Marriage year	1720
Marriage year as transcribed	1720
Marriage date	29 Aug 1720
Marriage place	Matlock
County	Derbyshire
Residence parish	Sutton in Ashfield
Spouse's first name(s)	Thomas
Spouse's last name	Merriott
Spouse's age	28
Spouse's birth year	1692
Spouse's residence parish	Sutton in Ashfield
Country	England
Record set	Staffordshire, Dioceses Of Lichfield & Coventry Marriage Allegations And Bonds, 1636-1893
Category	Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory	Parish Marriages
Collections from	England, Great Britain

Transcriptions © Findmypast 2015

I looked at the original, but the writing is so faint that I couldn't make it out.

[Darksecretz]

Not sure, but I expect it came from the marriage licence that FS has indexed
Thomas (age 28) married <sic> Hannah Sow (age 19) on 29 August 1720 in Matlock, Derbyshire, England. Spouse's Residence Place: Sutton in Ashfield

Marriage: England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944
citing Marriage License, Matlock, Derbyshire, England, Staffordshire & Stoke on Trent Archive Service, Stafford;
FHL microfilm 7,618,964
Thomas Merriott (28) marriage to Hannah Sow (19) on 29 Aug 1720 in Matlock, Derbyshire, England.

So, not really a marriage record, but rather the index to the licence. A licence would explain why it was in Staffordshire, too.

ETA - apparently the record is on FMP - could someone do a look up?

THANK YOU.... I had seen this record but dismissed it, some have her name as Hannah Tew? No wonder I couldn't flipping find anything when his name is down as Merriott! jeez louise!

This is what I'm finding on FMP

Thomas Merriott in 1720

Staffordshire, Dioceses Of Lichfield & Coventry Marriage Allegations And Bonds, 1636-1893
Matlock, Derbyshire, England View original record

First name(s)	Thomas
Last name	Merriott
Age	28
Birth year	1692
Marriage year	1720
Marriage year as transcribed	1720
Marriage date	29 Aug 1720
Marriage place	Matlock
County	Derbyshire
Residence parish	Sutton in Ashfield
Spouse's first name(s)	Hannah
Spouse's last name	Sow
Spouse's age	19
Spouse's birth year	1701
Spouse's residence parish	Sutton in Ashfield
Country	England
Record set	Staffordshire, Dioceses Of Lichfield & Coventry Marriage Allegations And Bonds, 1636-1893
Category	Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory	Parish Marriages
Collections from	England, Great Britain

First name(s)	Hannah
Last name	Sow
Age	19
Birth year	1701
Marriage year	1720
Marriage year as transcribed	1720
Marriage date	29 Aug 1720
Marriage place	Matlock
County	Derbyshire
Residence parish	Sutton in Ashfield
Spouse's first name(s)	Thomas
Spouse's last name	Merriott
Spouse's age	28
Spouse's birth year	1692
Spouse's residence parish	Sutton in Ashfield
Country	England
Record set	Staffordshire, Dioceses Of Lichfield & Coventry Marriage Allegations And Bonds, 1636-1893
Category	Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory	Parish Marriages
Collections from	England, Great Britain

Transcriptions © Findmypast 2015

I looked at the original, but the writing is so faint that I couldn't make it out.

Sylvia C if I pm you with my email address could you send me the image please?

[Lin Fisher]

Julie, I have family in Kirkby in Ashfield and Sutton in Ashfield 1700's and early 1800's. They are going over the boarder all the time. Matlock, Pentrich, Alfreton. Took me ages to sort them all out.

[Darksecretz]

Julie, I have family in Kirkby in Ashfield and Sutton in Ashfield 1700's and early 1800's. They are going over the boarder all the time. Matlock, Pentrich, Alfreton. Took me ages to sort them all out.

Tell me about it...lol.. Thomas & Hannah are my 6xgrt Grandparents... a mare of a family trying to find records... it doesn't help that some records have Thos as Marriott/Merriot/Merrick! and Hannah as Sow/Few/Tew!.. sounds like a song from the sound of music!

I might get chance this evening to have another look to see if I can find anything re Thomas's bapt, there was a record I saw that said he was from Matlock, but I can't remember where it was now!... another thing that is bothering me, why would some of the records say Matlock, Staffordshire?? not unless there were border changes?

[Lin Fisher]

I think the Staffordshire is where the marriage Licences were either recorded at the time or where the records are held now. I think one I had from West Hallam was from Staffordshire or Lichfield.

The marriage transcript says Hannah Tew on FMP. Does Ancestry have the original or is it too early for what they have on line.?

[Lin Fisher]

How about this!!

Thomas MARYOT, son of Thomas and Anne baptised 10 July 1693 St Mary Magdalene Sutton in Ashfield, It does say on the Licence that he was from Matlock but that could just be where he was living at the time.

[Darksecretz]

I think the Staffordshire is where the marriage Licences were either recorded at the time or where the records are held now. I think one I had from West Hallam was from Staffordshire or Lichfield.

The marriage transcript says Hannah Tew on FMP. Does Ancestry have the original or is it too early for what they have on line.?

I have found the image on Ancestry, I was getting a bit worried that Ancestry might not have the Derbyshire records anymore, I was kind of expecting it to be at DRO, so when it showed Staffordshire it threw me a bit. BUT I couldn't find it using Thomas, I tried Hannah and it came right up!... [though that has him transcribed as Thomas Merrick!]

[Darksecretz]

How about this!!

Thomas MARYOT, son of Thomas and Anne baptised 10 July 1693 St Mary Magdalene Sutton in Ashfield, It does say on the Licence that he was from Matlock but that could just be where he was living at the time.

WOWzers! that does look promising, he might have just been working in Matlock, it kind of makes sense that he'd come back 'home' and meet a local girl. Thank you Lin Fisher I'm off to have a look.

[PhotoFamily]

Have you cast a wide net looking for wills & burials?

[Sylvia C]

Sure ....... send me your email address, and I'll do my best to send you the actual image of the original