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    Where was Arthur Morris born.

    Arthur Morris was living in Mayfield Rd in Eccles during the 40s through to the 60s. with his wife Clare & family comprising 6 children.
    Can anyone throw a light on where Arthur was born as there may be a link to Frodsham in Cheshire.

    Not certain when he arrived in Eccles only know that both himself & Clare possibly lived in somewhere with the title " ???dwellings

    I think Arthur also went to school in Eccles possibly at St Andrews.I don't if /when Arthur & Clare/Clara were married but know they were only young when their
    first children were born.

    Any info would be appreciated
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    ​Bettyespana

    #2
    Further info:I am not sure but I think Arthurs wife was originally Clare/Clara Burgess.
    Children: Harry,Sheila,Derek,Claire,***** & Stewart.

    Edit***** possibly still living
    Last edited by Katarzyna; 10-01-21, 09:11. Reason: Possibly still living
    ​Bettyespana

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      #3
      Some dates, places of birth and any census info you already have would be useful, Betty.
      Kat
      https://www.pinterest.co.uk/katarzyna1234/my-own-cards/

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        #4
        All I know as far as dates are concerned is the birth date of one of the children: Derek Arthur Morris was born 9th Nov 1933 died March 1987
        I also am aware that Harry who also had the name Junior is deceased & so are Sheila,Claire & Stewart(not sure of the spelling).
        I think Sheila may have died in Canada where she emigrated to in Canada in the 60s with her family.
        ​Bettyespana

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          #5
          In 1939 register they are living 110 Lewis Street, Eccles, Eccles M.B.
          Arthur Morris b 30 sept 1910 Diesel Marine Caster Iron Foundry Heavy Worker
          Clara Morris b 28 Oct 1913
          Junior H (Harry) b 18 Oct 1932
          Derek A b 9 Nov 1933

          Last edited by Katarzyna; 10-01-21, 09:24.
          Kat
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            #6
            you can see MMN as Hall for Derek Arthur Morris B1933 Salford,

            there is a of marriage of Arthur Morris to a Clara Hale in 1932 in Salford

            I can see some of the children registered in Salford, on FMP, so you should be able to see them on GRO and perhaps pick up the ones still living too
            Carolyn
            Family Tree site

            Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
            Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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              #7
              MORRIS, DEREK ARTHUR mmn Hall
              GRO Reference: 1933 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 334


              MORRIS, JUNIOR HARRY mmn HALL
              GRO Reference: 1932 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 351
              Kat
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                #8
                Births Dec 1935
                Sheila Morris mmn Hall Salford 8d 321

                It would appear the marriage name was mistranscribed and the mother's name was Hall not Hale.
                Kat
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post
                  In 1939 register they are living 110 Lewis Street, Eccles, Eccles M.B.
                  Arthur Morris b 30 sept 1910 Diesel Marine Caster Iron Foundry Heavy Worker
                  Clara Morris b 28 Oct 1913
                  Junior H (Harry) b 18 Oct 1932
                  Derek A b 9 Nov 1933
                  Thank you Katarzyna for this,I will try to look into this further,much appreciated
                  ​Bettyespana

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                    #10
                    Births Dec 1913

                    Hall Clara mmn Burgess Salford 8d 292
                    Kat
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
                      you can see MMN as Hall for Derek Arthur Morris B1933 Salford,

                      there is a of marriage of Arthur Morris to a Clara Hale in 1932 in Salford

                      I can see some of the children registered in Salford, on FMP, so you should be able to see them on GRO and perhaps pick up the ones still living too
                      Thank you cbCarolyn for this info: I am still trying to find out where Arthur originated from but your info much appreciated
                      ​Bettyespana

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                        #12
                        The only Arthur Morris born in the Oct-Dec Qtr in Lancashire is:
                        MORRIS, ARTHUR mmn WARBURTON
                        GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in ASHTON-UNDER-LYNE Volume 08D Page 484

                        This may not be him - he could have been born elsewhere.

                        I think you would need to buy the marriage cert for Arthur and Clara to find their father's names and occupations.
                        Kat
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                          #13
                          there is an Arthur Morris on 1911 census in Frodsham, his father is a boot repairer

                          https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ce&pId=5619825

                          ​​​​​​household are:
                          Name Age
                          Harry Morris 31
                          Ellen Morris 30
                          Emma Morris 4
                          Arthur Morris 6/12

                          No way of knowing that these are your family, unless you can find out more about why Frodsham.

                          marriage cert will have occupation as suggested by Kat
                          Carolyn
                          Family Tree site

                          Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                          Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                            #14
                            Frodsham was in district of Runcorn then

                            ​​​​​​MORRIS, ARTHUR MMN KIMBER
                            GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in RUNCORN Volume 08A Page 209
                            Carolyn
                            Family Tree site

                            Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                            Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                              #15
                              From above census post #13
                              Emma b Eccles
                              and Arthur born 5 Crosses Frodsham.

                              MORRIS, EMMA mmn KIMBER
                              GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL Volume 08C Page 632


                              MORRIS, ARTHUR mmn KIMBER
                              GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in RUNCORN Volume 08A Page 209

                              Edit: That too is correct qtr for Arthur.
                              Last edited by Katarzyna; 10-01-21, 10:58.
                              Kat
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
                                there is an Arthur Morris on 1911 census in Frodsham, his father is a boot repairer

                                https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...ce&pId=5619825

                                ​​​​​​household are:
                                Name Age
                                Harry Morris 31
                                Ellen Morris 30
                                Emma Morris 4
                                Arthur Morris 6/12

                                No way of knowing that these are your family, unless you can find out more about why Frodsham.

                                marriage cert will have occupation as suggested by Kat
                                I actually think this is him,as he had a older sister Emma.I have looked at this on 1911c & it states that Emma was born in Eccles.Thank you Carolyn
                                ​Bettyespana

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post
                                  From above census post #13
                                  Emma b Eccles
                                  and Arthur born 5 Crosses Frodsham.

                                  MORRIS, EMMA mmn KIMBER
                                  GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL Volume 08C Page 632


                                  MORRIS, ARTHUR mmn KIMBER
                                  GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in RUNCORN Volume 08A Page 209

                                  Edit: That too is correct qtr for Arthur.
                                  Thank you Katarzyna I really am sure this is the Arthur Morris family I am looking for.Apparently when Arthur lived in Mayfield Road Eccles with his family
                                  his sister Emma lived in the next road.
                                  ​Bettyespana

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                                    #18
                                    did you need any more lookups? I actually can't see marriage of Morris to Kimber easily, but didn't spend long looking in case it was the wrong people. I think I have his father living with his widowed father and brother Arthur, in census, he is a shoemaker.
                                    Carolyn
                                    Family Tree site

                                    Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Post
                                      did you need any more lookups? I actually can't see marriage of Morris to Kimber easily, but didn't spend long looking in case it was the wrong people. I think I have his father living with his widowed father and brother Arthur, in census, he is a shoemaker.
                                      If you think you have his father as stated above on another census can you give me that please & then I don't think I will need anymore look ups.
                                      I am so pleased that I have been able to get the ones I have been sent already.Thank you
                                      ​Bettyespana

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                                        #20
                                        I think that this is him

                                        https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...4&pId=23874235

                                        1901 on his own
                                        Registration District: Ashton under Lyne
                                        Sub-registration District: Ashton Town
                                        ED, institution, or vessel: 20
                                        Piece: 3784
                                        Folio: 125
                                        Page Number: 34
                                        Household Schedule Number: 192

                                        1891 with father and brother
                                        https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...4&pId=21099790
                                        Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne
                                        Sub registration district: Ashton Town
                                        ED, Institution or Vessel: 31
                                        Piece: 3279
                                        Folio: 112
                                        Carolyn
                                        Family Tree site

                                        Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                                        Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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