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    hi...i have a marriage in 1883 (in liverpool city centre)and the wife is sarah a martin(we think ann)..i have looked on lancs bmd for her birth,with no joy...my cousin reckons that sarah was born on the isle of man 1860`s...this is news to me,so i`ve looked up i.o.m bmd`s,but i can only find marriages.....any one any I.O.MAN research sites please??...thanks...allan;)
    Allan ......... researching oakes/anyon/standish/collins/hartley/barker/collins-cheshire
    oakes/tipping/ellis/jones/schacht/...garston, liverpool
    adams-shropshire/roberts-welshpool
    merrick/lewis/stringham/nicolls-herefordshire
    coxon/williamson/kay/weaver-glossop/stockport/walker-gorton

    #2
    Where does she state she was born on the censuses?

    There is quite a bit of IOM stuff on the IGI but I don't know what dates it goes up to - this may be too recent.

    OC

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      #3
      http://www.familytreeforum.com/wiki/...hp/Isle_of_Man

      have you exhausted all of these?
      Jess

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        #4
        thanks jess...i`ll have a look at that site now...regards...allan
        Allan ......... researching oakes/anyon/standish/collins/hartley/barker/collins-cheshire
        oakes/tipping/ellis/jones/schacht/...garston, liverpool
        adams-shropshire/roberts-welshpool
        merrick/lewis/stringham/nicolls-herefordshire
        coxon/williamson/kay/weaver-glossop/stockport/walker-gorton

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          #5
          Which man did she marry, Allan?

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            #6
            hi merry....a jenkins in 1883,st stephens,liverpool....regards...allan
            Allan ......... researching oakes/anyon/standish/collins/hartley/barker/collins-cheshire
            oakes/tipping/ellis/jones/schacht/...garston, liverpool
            adams-shropshire/roberts-welshpool
            merrick/lewis/stringham/nicolls-herefordshire
            coxon/williamson/kay/weaver-glossop/stockport/walker-gorton

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              #7
              I can't be certain without more info, but as she was Sarah Ann and he was John Henry, this family in Liverpool look like the ones, but she is born in Liverpool (at least on this census!)

              1891:

              RG12; Piece: 2948; Folio 97; Page 16

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                #8
                Can recommend this site: Manx Genealogy - Message Index

                Folk on there very knowledgeable and helpful. Also I found the families I was looking for by going through each church on Isle of Man via IGI batch nos:IGI Batch Numbers for Isle Of Man, England

                Good luck. Liz
                Liz

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by garstonite View Post
                  thanks jess...i`ll have a look at that site now...regards...allan

                  Did you manage to find anything helpful?
                  Jess

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                    #10
                    thanks merry...thats the marriage..sarah ann and john henry...so it was ann ..thats good to find....as for her being born in liverpool..thats what i always thought....
                    thanks liz...for iom site
                    jess...i searched that site...it seemed more for registering births/marriages/deaths present day...like a government info site...thanks all....allan...added
                    merry...i trawled the lancs bmd site yesterday for sarah anns birth,but got no joy...the only sarah ann martin i could find was born in wigan....allan
                    Last edited by garstonite; 12-01-08, 09:11.
                    Allan ......... researching oakes/anyon/standish/collins/hartley/barker/collins-cheshire
                    oakes/tipping/ellis/jones/schacht/...garston, liverpool
                    adams-shropshire/roberts-welshpool
                    merrick/lewis/stringham/nicolls-herefordshire
                    coxon/williamson/kay/weaver-glossop/stockport/walker-gorton

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                      #11
                      since i think we have confirmed that sarah ann was born in liverpool,does a moderator want to delete this thread...or leave it on for anyone else looking for iom reference sites???.regards...allan
                      Allan ......... researching oakes/anyon/standish/collins/hartley/barker/collins-cheshire
                      oakes/tipping/ellis/jones/schacht/...garston, liverpool
                      adams-shropshire/roberts-welshpool
                      merrick/lewis/stringham/nicolls-herefordshire
                      coxon/williamson/kay/weaver-glossop/stockport/walker-gorton

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                        #12
                        Allan

                        She only SAYS she was born in Liverpool. That isn't proof that she WAS born in Liverpool.

                        My 2 x GGM was born in IOM. In one census she is living in Manchester and says she was born there. This must be down to the mistake/laziness of the enumerator as she was very proud of her Manx heritage by all accounts and declares it on all the other censuses.

                        And Liverpool was the usual first residence of the Manx when they arrived.

                        OC

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                          #13
                          thanks oc...my cousin is adamant she was manx....back to the drawing board...regards...allan
                          Allan ......... researching oakes/anyon/standish/collins/hartley/barker/collins-cheshire
                          oakes/tipping/ellis/jones/schacht/...garston, liverpool
                          adams-shropshire/roberts-welshpool
                          merrick/lewis/stringham/nicolls-herefordshire
                          coxon/williamson/kay/weaver-glossop/stockport/walker-gorton

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                            #14
                            Perhaps the couple I'm looking at are not the right ones? (Sarah Jenkins says Liverpool again in 1901).

                            He is a whitesmith both times and they have children:

                            Margaret and Edward by 1891

                            plus Annie, John, William, Thomas and Robert by 1901

                            The 1901 ref is:

                            RG13; Piece: 3484; Folio: 162; Page: 11

                            I'm not sure why you couldn't find any Liverpool Births (how complete is Lancs BMD?)

                            I found these:

                            Births Dec 1863
                            MARTIN Sarah Ann Liverpool 8b _3

                            Births Mar 1864
                            MARTIN Sarah Ann Liverpool 8b 243
                            MARTIN Sarah Ann Nichol Liverpool 8b 199

                            But there is also a Sarah A Martin living in IoM in 1871, the same age!

                            Obviously someone needs to get the marriage cert to sort this out!
                            Last edited by Merry Monty Montgomery; 12-01-08, 13:16.

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                              #15
                              thanks very much merry...i`ve rung my cousin,and he is getting their marriage cert from liverpool register office...i`ll let you know the outcome...regards...allan
                              Allan ......... researching oakes/anyon/standish/collins/hartley/barker/collins-cheshire
                              oakes/tipping/ellis/jones/schacht/...garston, liverpool
                              adams-shropshire/roberts-welshpool
                              merrick/lewis/stringham/nicolls-herefordshire
                              coxon/williamson/kay/weaver-glossop/stockport/walker-gorton

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                                #16
                                thanks all....merry..that is definitely the marriage...he was a whitesmith.....regards...allan
                                Allan ......... researching oakes/anyon/standish/collins/hartley/barker/collins-cheshire
                                oakes/tipping/ellis/jones/schacht/...garston, liverpool
                                adams-shropshire/roberts-welshpool
                                merrick/lewis/stringham/nicolls-herefordshire
                                coxon/williamson/kay/weaver-glossop/stockport/walker-gorton

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                                  #17
                                  Allan, I'm pretty sure that Lancs BMD is nowhere near complete for Liverpool yet. If you want to check its coverage for any particular district there is an option to click on to see coverage. You would be best to look for her birth on the GRO indexes (as Merry already did!).
                                  KiteRunner

                                  Every five years or so I look back on my life and I have a good... laugh"
                                  (Indigo Girls, "Watershed")

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                                    #18
                                    thanks very much kiterunner ..appreciate the advice...regards...allan
                                    Allan ......... researching oakes/anyon/standish/collins/hartley/barker/collins-cheshire
                                    oakes/tipping/ellis/jones/schacht/...garston, liverpool
                                    adams-shropshire/roberts-welshpool
                                    merrick/lewis/stringham/nicolls-herefordshire
                                    coxon/williamson/kay/weaver-glossop/stockport/walker-gorton

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