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DiD
10-02-11, 20:52
Please could I have some help.
My grandfather's sister married Thomas Quinlan O'Brien in London on 5/8/1899. Thomas is down as having been born in Kingston, Canada with a father of the same name. They had three children Mary Quinlan OB'rien born before the marrige in April 1899, Edmund Patrick born in 1901 and Nora who was born and died in 1902.

I can see a Thomas O'Brien in Portsmouth he is Irish but his wife Emma comes from Newfoundland - could this be Dad?

And I can't find a death for Mary although she is not on the 1901 census in Portsmouth with her parents. I can't see Edmund again either!!

Di

margaretmarch
10-02-11, 23:10
Do the occupations match of the two Thomas O'Brien records you have? If so then maybe it's a possibility.
Can you see them on the 1911?
Margaret

SueNSW
11-02-11, 00:25
Have a look at this - might help fill in some info re Thomas Snr and Emma

http://genforum.genealogy.com/quinlan/messages/560.html

Cheers
Sue

DiD
11-02-11, 10:32
Wow, that is brilliant, thank you so much.

Might explain why he was Quinlan O'Brien - gentleman on the marriage document and O'Brien - messenger on the 1901 census. Unfortunately don't have access to 1911 census.

Many thanks again.

Di

Christine in Herts
11-02-11, 13:50
In 1901 (RG13/980 fo 154 p 33), Thomas is described as a clerk accountant at the dockyard. Edmund is 3 & 1/2 months old. Wife, Ada, b in Gosport.

Christine

DiD
11-02-11, 14:27
Thanks, can also see births for two other children but no deaths.

Di

Christine in Herts
11-02-11, 14:37
They aren't conspicuous in the 1911.

Christine

DiD
12-02-11, 13:25
It's odd isn't it as Thomas the elder died in 1912 and Emma in 1937 both in England. Even Thomas the younger and Ada come to a dead end!

Di

DiD
12-02-11, 14:48
In Ada's case it is true, she died in 1902 along with daughter Nora.

Di

SueNSW
13-02-11, 00:36
Could this be the death of Thomas junior -

Jun 1939
O'Brien Thomas Q 72 Wandsworth 1d 440

I wonder if this family was related - Stockwell and the Wandsworth reg district are virtually next door (I think)

Name: O'BRIEN, PETER QUINLAN
Initials: P Q
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Aircraftman 1st Class
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
Unit Text: 413 (R.C.A.F.) Sqdn.
Age: 18
Date of Death: 23/08/1941
Service No: 575990
Additional information: Son of Maj. James Quinlan O'Brien and Ethel Julia O'Brien, of Stockwell, London.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. H. Class 1. Grave 159.
Cemetery: STRANRAER (GLEBE) CEMETERY

Cheers
Sue

DiD
13-02-11, 10:21
Thank you so much, James was the son of Thomas senior and Emma. He married Ethel Neill. Have found his descendants in Canada after the earlier post about Genealogy.com.

Now it's just Edmund to find. I just feel he died very young like the other children.

Di

DiD
15-02-11, 16:15
Am advised that afterAda died, Thomas remarried a French woman called Emilienne Eastell. I can see her dying in Surrey in 1960, but no sight of her and Thomas's marriage.

Di

kylejustin
16-02-11, 03:01
maybe they married in france? have you tried the overseas marriages?

DiD
16-02-11, 19:08
Have found them in the passenger lists!! Result.

Di

SueNSW
17-02-11, 02:05
Wow - Morocco - quite exotic!!

Cheers
Sue