I hope you kind folks don't mind my first question being my biggest problem!
I have good evidence that Mezey is my direct ancestor through many documents, but am well and truly stuck at him.
I have a couple of routes I could go down as follows,
Father John Clive b 1781 sutton coldfield, mother Elizabeth. His siblings in that case would probably be Samuel b.1801, John b.1810, and Emma b.1820. There are several trees on ancestry where I do most of my research who have this combination but there is no evidence on any of them and I think they are possibly all copied from one another.
Having said that it could be correct because Emma and John were baptised at St Peters church in wolverhampton and on her record it says fathers occupation is 'Box Iron maker', which is what Mezey and Samuel were later in their lives. I can find no baptism for Mezey or any spelling anything like it.
There are other children by a John and Elizabeth but the surname is Cleeve or Cleve which were not uncommon mispellings but I haven't included them in my tree for lack of evidence. Interestingly though a couple of possible siblings names appear in Mezeys family, including Eleanor, Ann, and John.
Plus on the 1851 census, John b.1810 and his family are living next door to Mezey and his family in Great Berry Street, Wolverhampton and Samuel and his, just up the street.
On the other hand, Mezey is a very unusual first name, and although it is mispelt and mistranscribed many times in records I believe that this is the correct spelling.
I have just returned to my home in Spain having spent many hours in the Worcester archives office tracking various Clives, Cleves, Cleeve and Cleeves, mostly because there is another Mezey Clive (Cleeve on the parish record) on the IGI born in 1784 in Old Swinford. Sadly that one died in 1787.
His father Elijah was baptised at Old Swinford in 1758 and had parents whose names were recorded as Mezey and Elizabeth Cleve. Elijah was a pain because he was married Cleeve and died Clive!
One of my Mezey's sons, William, also seems to have misnamed one of his children 'Mazey', because that is how it was spelt on his baptism record.
Confused? I know I am!
Both lines seem to have their merits for being my ancestors and for all I know they may be connected, but I am missing the one vital link and piece of evidence to sort this out once and for all.....Mezeys parents.
Anyone out there got any fresh ideas? I'm stumped.....
Sorry my first question is so long and complicated, but it's the one that drives me crackers the most.
Regards
Les Clive
I have good evidence that Mezey is my direct ancestor through many documents, but am well and truly stuck at him.
I have a couple of routes I could go down as follows,
Father John Clive b 1781 sutton coldfield, mother Elizabeth. His siblings in that case would probably be Samuel b.1801, John b.1810, and Emma b.1820. There are several trees on ancestry where I do most of my research who have this combination but there is no evidence on any of them and I think they are possibly all copied from one another.
Having said that it could be correct because Emma and John were baptised at St Peters church in wolverhampton and on her record it says fathers occupation is 'Box Iron maker', which is what Mezey and Samuel were later in their lives. I can find no baptism for Mezey or any spelling anything like it.
There are other children by a John and Elizabeth but the surname is Cleeve or Cleve which were not uncommon mispellings but I haven't included them in my tree for lack of evidence. Interestingly though a couple of possible siblings names appear in Mezeys family, including Eleanor, Ann, and John.
Plus on the 1851 census, John b.1810 and his family are living next door to Mezey and his family in Great Berry Street, Wolverhampton and Samuel and his, just up the street.
On the other hand, Mezey is a very unusual first name, and although it is mispelt and mistranscribed many times in records I believe that this is the correct spelling.
I have just returned to my home in Spain having spent many hours in the Worcester archives office tracking various Clives, Cleves, Cleeve and Cleeves, mostly because there is another Mezey Clive (Cleeve on the parish record) on the IGI born in 1784 in Old Swinford. Sadly that one died in 1787.
His father Elijah was baptised at Old Swinford in 1758 and had parents whose names were recorded as Mezey and Elizabeth Cleve. Elijah was a pain because he was married Cleeve and died Clive!
One of my Mezey's sons, William, also seems to have misnamed one of his children 'Mazey', because that is how it was spelt on his baptism record.
Confused? I know I am!
Both lines seem to have their merits for being my ancestors and for all I know they may be connected, but I am missing the one vital link and piece of evidence to sort this out once and for all.....Mezeys parents.
Anyone out there got any fresh ideas? I'm stumped.....
Sorry my first question is so long and complicated, but it's the one that drives me crackers the most.
Regards
Les Clive
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