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  • #41
    I know Hanmer came under Flintshire then Elaine but am assuming perhaps wrongly that its now part of Shropshire.
    Jen
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    Researching: Brandon.London/M/cr. Tyson.France/Mcr.

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    • #42
      I've got some that originated from Hanmer and ended up in Shropshire!

      I think I'll give up for tonight - will come back to it tomorrow!
      Elaine







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      • #43
        Thanks a lot Elaine and Julie for your help. It's very appreciated.
        Jen
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        Researching: Brandon.London/M/cr. Tyson.France/Mcr.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Jen~Ealogy View Post
          Sarah's parents: Thomas Reeves & Jane Mathers married Malpas Cheshire in 1813.

          Thomas born 1798 and Jane abt that!
          As there doesn't seem to be any positive sighting of Thomas and Jane in the census, I am wondering if they are older than you think and maybe died before 1841.
          I can see there is a Thomas Reeves christened in Hanmer in 1798, but if your Thomas married Jane in 1813 then it's quite probable it's not the same one as he would only have been 15/16'ish, presuming of course he was christened at a young age.
          Elaine







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          • #45
            not that it helps any but they might have had another child.

            James Reeves-bapt. 20 oct 1813 @ Hamner, Flintshire, Wales.

            Parents Thomas & Jane Reeves.
            Julie
            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

            .......I find dead people

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            • #46
              I saw that one Julie - but there are quite a few Reeves children with parents Thomas & Jane - all in the same batch

              Eliz. Reeves
              Christening: 08 DEC 1805 Hanmer, , Cheshire
              John Reeves
              Christening: 08 MAR 1801 Hanmer, , Cheshire
              James Reeves
              Christening: 29 MAY 1808 Hanmer, Flint
              James Reeves
              Christening: 20 OCT 1813 Hanmer, Flint
              John Reeves
              Christening: 08 MAR 1801 Hanmer, Flint
              Thos. Reeves
              Christening: 09 DEC 1798 Hanmer, Flint
              Willm. Reeves
              Christening: 17 APR 1803 Hanmer, Flint
              Eliz. Reeves
              Christening: 08 DEC 1805 Hanmer, Flint
              John Reeves
              Christening: 08 MAR 1801 Hanmer, Flint
              Elaine







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              • #47
                Cheshire Wills have a record for a Thomas Reeves, abode Malpas, occupation butcher dated 1822. It looks as though its an admon rather than a full will but its a possible

                Jackie

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Jen~Ealogy View Post
                  Margaret, where might I find the Lloyd's registers please? Will they be on FMP?
                  HI,
                  I think they are only available at the London Metropolitan Archives here's the link Collections information
                  I don't think they are digitised so you might have to ask someone to go and look for you unless you can get there yourself.
                  Margaret

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                  • #49
                    Thanks Margaret for the link.

                    The names you have Elaine are Thomas' siblings.........his parents were also called Thomas and Jane (maiden name unknown).
                    I do have them from the Bivri Film 1655828 dates 1783-1815. This Jane was also born Hanmer.

                    I suppose the will Jackie turned up may be a possibility, Thomas 1798 & his wife Jane, could have retired/moved to Malpas at some point, after having their family. So will need to look into that.........If it was Thomas' 1798 will.....he would have died a few years after Sarah was born.........she is the only child I have for him and Jane at present. And if her mother died some time later, it may explain her servitude?


                    It may explain why they are not showing up in the census?
                    This is great......something to work on/with. Thankyou all.
                    Last edited by Jen~Ealogy; 14-06-09, 12:13.
                    Jen
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                    • #50
                      I'm not sure how you know that you have the right Thomas (born c1798) if you haven't found any evidence of him when he was alive.
                      Elaine







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                      • #51
                        No I don't know for sure Elaine, its all very patchy at the moment......am just trying to collect all the info I can on him. Originally I only had his name from Sarah's marriage cert.
                        I really need to check the records at Ellesmere.....
                        Jen
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                        • #52
                          Ah right! Was just worried that you might be going down the wrong route.
                          That will looks as if it might be interesting!
                          Elaine







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                          • #53
                            Originally posted by Elaine ..Spain View Post
                            I saw that one Julie - but there are quite a few Reeves children with parents Thomas & Jane - all in the same batch

                            Eliz. Reeves
                            Christening: 08 DEC 1805 Hanmer, , Cheshire
                            John Reeves
                            Christening: 08 MAR 1801 Hanmer, , Cheshire
                            James Reeves
                            Christening: 29 MAY 1808 Hanmer, Flint
                            James Reeves
                            Christening: 20 OCT 1813 Hanmer, Flint
                            John Reeves
                            Christening: 08 MAR 1801 Hanmer, Flint
                            Thos. Reeves
                            Christening: 09 DEC 1798 Hanmer, Flint
                            Willm. Reeves
                            Christening: 17 APR 1803 Hanmer, Flint
                            Eliz. Reeves
                            Christening: 08 DEC 1805 Hanmer, Flint
                            John Reeves
                            Christening: 08 MAR 1801 Hanmer, Flint
                            ahh that explains alot, I didnt look on LDS.. I got that from Ancestry. :o
                            Julie
                            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

                            .......I find dead people

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                            • #54
                              Yes I've sent for a copy Julie.
                              Jen
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                              Researching: Brandon.London/M/cr. Tyson.France/Mcr.

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                              • #55
                                Can anyone help me try and find possible marriages for the following 2 sisters please?;)

                                I have searched ancestry and FMP but so far turned nothing up, perhaps a few more pairs of eyes may help.

                                They were the only 2 surviving sisters of 5, and can't beleive that one of them did not marry!

                                Ellen Brandon born 1892 Manchester

                                Edith Brandon born 1894 Manchester.

                                Their parents were Charles Brandon & Ellen Cocklin.........

                                I am surmising that they may have married between 1920/30.
                                Jen
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                                Researching: Brandon.London/M/cr. Tyson.France/Mcr.

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                                • #56
                                  Jen,

                                  I think this may be your Edith listed on the deaths on FreeBMD;

                                  Deaths Sep 1905
                                  Edith Brandon age 11 Prestwich 8d 273

                                  I found the family on the 1901 census living in Prestwich.

                                  Janben

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                                  • #57
                                    Thanks Janben, I will check it out. I can't beleive a fourth one died too. They died between the ages of two and 13.......I ought to try and see if they had other children too.
                                    They were the children of my g grandfather's brother.
                                    Jen
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                                    Researching: Brandon.London/M/cr. Tyson.France/Mcr.

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                                    • #58
                                      There are four more children on the 1911 census: Elizabeth (1903), Mary (1905), George (1908) and Dorris (1910). Ellen was living at home with her mother and the other children, aged 19. Charles wasn't there, but it doesn't look as though he died until 1918.

                                      These are the only two Ellen Brandon marriages in Lancashire in the right period:

                                      Marriages Dec 1931
                                      Brandon Ellen / Clark / W.Derby / 8b 1024
                                      Marriages Jun 1932
                                      Brandon Ellen / O'Neil / Leigh / 8c 492

                                      but she may have married later, and FreeBMD doesn't have full coverage yet.

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                                      • #59
                                        Thankyou very much Mary, more children, that's fantastic, I will try and determine if they are really mine.........maybe need to send for some more certs!!
                                        Will be interesting to see what all the other children died of too........Oh the expense lol!


                                        I really appreciate all the help I have had this past week and would like to thank you all so much.........I have enjoyed my week and you have given me plenty to work with. I hope I can participate in helping others in turn.........although having said that, by the time I have written down details etc, someone else (people who are quicker than me) have answered lol! Still there's nothing like plenty of practice to get you there.
                                        Jen
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                                        Researching: Brandon.London/M/cr. Tyson.France/Mcr.

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