The Winner of Who Do We Think You Are? 11 June is ...

[Jen~Ealogy]

Hope he's having better luck than me then Julie! Can't say I know who you mean though, don't think we've had contact.

[Jen~Ealogy]

Oooer Julie, just noticed, it looks like your guarding the fort alone at the moment.

[Darksecretz]

here you go Jen

1861 lookup please Liverpool? [Archive] - UKGEN - Genealogical Forums

you never know, you might just find a new relative, though this was 2006 when they enquired, but if you dont ask you dont find out

[Jen~Ealogy]

Thanks Julie......they got Charles' wife's name wrong. I know I got the cert.
Still I daresay, he has as much info as I do now.

[Darksecretz]

oh well, back to square one.. :o

but will have to be tomorrow/later now.. nite Jen

[Jen~Ealogy]

Nite Julie. Sleep well.

[Jen~Ealogy]

Well........I did warn you!:D I knew we wouldn't win this one so, how about something a little easier?

My gg grandmother Sarah Reeves born Hanmer Flintshire 1819 and married William Madeley in 1847.

Sarah's parents: Thomas Reeves & Jane Mathers married Malpas Cheshire in 1813.
Thomas was born Hanmer too.....they lived in Shropshire.

I can't find any trace of them on the 1841 census........any help here please?

Thomas born 1798 and Jane abt that!

[Darksecretz]

so if she was sarah reeves born hanmer have you proof of this?

[Elaine ..Spain]

How sure are you of her year of birth

Could this one be possible?
HO107; Piece 1408; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Hanmer; County: Flintshire; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 4; Page: 1; Line: 19
- Ancestry.co.uk

[Elaine ..Spain]

Do you have Thomas and Jane in 1851 - if so can you give the reference.
Do you expect to find any children with them in 1841?

[Elaine ..Spain]

A possible for Sarah in 1841

HO107; Piece 1408; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Overton; County: Flintshire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 39; Page: 16; Line: 24;
- Ancestry.co.uk

Overton --> Hanmer is about 6 miles

Ignore this - too young!

[Jen~Ealogy]

Have her marriage cert to William Madeley.

By Licence in the parish of Hanmer county of Flint.
October 7th 1847.
Wm Madeley 27 Bachelor Butcher. Residence Hanmer
Sarah Reeves 28 Spinster Of the same place.

So given the year of marriage and age at the time she would have been born abt 1819.


Elaine........It could well be her but I'm not sure what her residence is, is it some kind of boarding/lodging house, seems big for that. And is she of Independant means? I can't make it out with my eyesight?

[Elaine ..Spain]

The address is Gredington, Hanmer - looks like a big house - top of page is the Hon.Lord Kenyon.
Sarah is listed as FS = female servant

[Darksecretz]

as well as the marriage licence was there any allegations?

[Jen~Ealogy]

No Thomas & Jane in 1851 Elaine and its dounbtful if they would have had children with them then.

Forgot to mention that one of the witnesses to the marriage was one Jane Reeves.....May have been her mother or possibly a sister!

[Jen~Ealogy]

Julie, not sure what allegations means in this context, never dealt with that aspect so far.

[Elaine ..Spain]

Have you found Thomas and Jane in any census?

[Jen~Ealogy]

Thomas Reeves (Sarah's father) is recorded as an Inn Keeper & Butcher on the marriage cert.

[Jen~Ealogy]

All other info I have for Thomas and Jane comes from..........

BIVRI.

IGI Batch No. 396136 dates. 1753-1838

They married at Malpas Chesire on 9/3/1813

Found Jane Mathers on IGI Batch No. 8406232 Sheet 10
Film 1395727
Patron Ordinance Submission Sheets 1969-1991

[Elaine ..Spain]

You said that Thomas and Jane lived in Shropshire - how do you know that - do you have a date/place?