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    Quote Originally Posted by bubblebelle View Post
    I agree with Christine and wonder if the final word could be dyspnea, it would make sense. I had it in my head when reading cert but had to check spelling which appears to fit with the writing.
    Good call - although I think it's the variant spelling of dypsnoea on the cert.

    Christine
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    Just to sum up so far - we have Edwin Birch marrying Eliza Worn in 1848 and having children as follows:
    Elizabeth Birch - eldest daughter - born circa 1849 died 1909 - did not marry
    Emily Birch - 3rd daughter - died 1930 in Nimes, France - did not marry
    Annie Birch - possibly 2nd daughter - born circa 1853 - unmarried as of 1901 census - I haven't found her in 1911 census or found a possible late marriage or death for her in Ireland. But perhaps she too ventured abroad?
    Harriette Birch - unmarried as of 1909 - living in Putney at that time.

    Seems unlikely that there are descendants from the above!

    The only sons we know of as yet are Captain William Birch c1857-1918 and the son Edwin George Birch who died aged 2 (from the findagrave headstone)

    Were there any more married sons or daughters?

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    (Co Fermanagh, other Ulster counties and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada) BANNIGAN and FOX (Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland and Portland, Maine, USA) REYNOLDS, McSHEA, PATTERSON and GOAN (Corker and Creevy, Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland) DYER (Belfast and Ballymacarrett) SLEVIN and TIMONEY (Co Fermanagh) BARNETT (Ballagh, Co Tyrone and Strangford, Co Down)

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    Probate for Elizabeth Birch who died in 1909 - looks like there could be yet another spinster sister, as one of the executors is Mary A E Birch, spinster.

    http://www.willcalendars.nationalarc...4916_00020.pdf

    Christine
    Last edited by Karamazov; 05-02-20 at 22:39.
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    HOEY
    (Co Fermanagh, other Ulster counties and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada) BANNIGAN and FOX (Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland and Portland, Maine, USA) REYNOLDS, McSHEA, PATTERSON and GOAN (Corker and Creevy, Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland) DYER (Belfast and Ballymacarrett) SLEVIN and TIMONEY (Co Fermanagh) BARNETT (Ballagh, Co Tyrone and Strangford, Co Down)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazov View Post
    Probate for Elizabeth Birch who died in 1909 - looks like there could be yet another spinster sister, as one of the executors is Mary A E Birch, spinster.

    http://www.willcalendars.nationalarc...4916_00020.pdf

    Christine
    Couldn't find anything more on Mary A E Birch, but looking for records of the other executor, Georgina Shore, I found her dying in Dublin in 1925. She was a governess. Also found her in 1901 and 1911 censuses - and bingo - in 1911 she is a visitor in the household of Annie Birch, who has now moved down to Greystones in Co Wicklow and makes her living from houses:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.i.../nai003638620/

    Still can't find a death for Annie in Ireland after 1911 though...

    Christine
    Last edited by Karamazov; 05-02-20 at 22:59.
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    HOEY
    (Co Fermanagh, other Ulster counties and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada) BANNIGAN and FOX (Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland and Portland, Maine, USA) REYNOLDS, McSHEA, PATTERSON and GOAN (Corker and Creevy, Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland) DYER (Belfast and Ballymacarrett) SLEVIN and TIMONEY (Co Fermanagh) BARNETT (Ballagh, Co Tyrone and Strangford, Co Down)

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    Thanks Christine, there's also a couple of notices in the newspaper on FMP for births that have an address that matches where they were doing business at the time (Dawson Street/Molesworth Street). There's an entry for 1857 which I presume is William, but also an entry for a girl on 13 Aug 1862 and a boy on 27 Apr 1860.

    I haven't found any other details for these yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearlyred View Post
    Thanks Christine, there's also a couple of notices in the newspaper on FMP for births that have an address that matches where they were doing business at the time (Dawson Street/Molesworth Street). There's an entry for 1857 which I presume is William, but also an entry for a girl on 13 Aug 1862 and a boy on 27 Apr 1860.

    I haven't found any other details for these yet.

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    Pity they are all before civil reg of births began in Ireland in 1864!

    You could try going through Birch marriages on irishgenealogy.ie to see if you can find any where the father is Edwin Birch. That could be a long haul though, so possibly try familysearch first with father's name Edwin Birch in their Ireland Births and Baptisms and Irish Marriages collections...

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    HOEY
    (Co Fermanagh, other Ulster counties and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada) BANNIGAN and FOX (Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland and Portland, Maine, USA) REYNOLDS, McSHEA, PATTERSON and GOAN (Corker and Creevy, Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland) DYER (Belfast and Ballymacarrett) SLEVIN and TIMONEY (Co Fermanagh) BARNETT (Ballagh, Co Tyrone and Strangford, Co Down)

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    As it looks like you have FMP - I found this for Mary Ann Eliza Birch (as in Mary A E post 23) which confirms her as child of Edwin and gives her baptism on 21st December 1851:

    https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...&size=fullsize

    Christine
    Researching:
    HOEY
    (Co Fermanagh, other Ulster counties and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada) BANNIGAN and FOX (Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland and Portland, Maine, USA) REYNOLDS, McSHEA, PATTERSON and GOAN (Corker and Creevy, Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland) DYER (Belfast and Ballymacarrett) SLEVIN and TIMONEY (Co Fermanagh) BARNETT (Ballagh, Co Tyrone and Strangford, Co Down)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazov View Post
    As it looks like you have FMP - I found this for Mary Ann Eliza Birch (as in Mary A E post 23) which confirms her as child of Edwin and gives her baptism on 21st December 1851:

    https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...&size=fullsize



    Christine
    Her death in 1940 aged 89:
    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy....16/4260184.pdf

    Christine
    Last edited by Karamazov; 06-02-20 at 01:02.
    Researching:
    HOEY
    (Co Fermanagh, other Ulster counties and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada) BANNIGAN and FOX (Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland and Portland, Maine, USA) REYNOLDS, McSHEA, PATTERSON and GOAN (Corker and Creevy, Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland) DYER (Belfast and Ballymacarrett) SLEVIN and TIMONEY (Co Fermanagh) BARNETT (Ballagh, Co Tyrone and Strangford, Co Down)

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    Yes I just signed up to it as it seems there are a few things on there not on ancestry, which will be useful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazov View Post
    As it looks like you have FMP - I found this for Mary Ann Eliza Birch (as in Mary A E post 23) which confirms her as child of Edwin and gives her baptism on 21st December 1851:

    https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...&size=fullsize

    Christine

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    Under fathers and mothers name for applicant it has Edwin + (Mary Ann). Are we thinking that Eliza was just the name the mother was known by?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazov View Post
    As it looks like you have FMP - I found this for Mary Ann Eliza Birch (as in Mary A E post 23) which confirms her as child of Edwin and gives her baptism on 21st December 1851:

    https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...&size=fullsize

    Christine
    Last edited by pearlyred; 06-02-20 at 07:52.

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