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    ...I suppose a salesman same as a dealer - so maybe the same occupation.

    The Kensington one doesn't look correct like you say, also no 'Lewis' included which he seem to use.
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    It's tough as some of the later certs for his children with Amelia (which I'm sure are correct, ie. Leonard Edgar) have him as just William Biggs also.

    Quote Originally Posted by cbcarolyn View Post
    ...I suppose a salesman same as a dealer - so maybe the same occupation.

    The Kensington one doesn't look correct like you say, also no 'Lewis' included which he seem to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearlyred View Post
    It's tough as some of the later certs for his children with Amelia (which I'm sure are correct, ie. Leonard Edgar) have him as just William Biggs also.
    I can see that there is a baptism for Ann Marie, and she is not in the next census, so like you say something has happened to her. the next son was the one born in Kensington, so maybe it is her.
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    I got some new certs through for some of the earlier children for William and Louisa.. I've gone around in circles so many times with this family I feel like I've forgotten what I was trying to work out! I almost feel like I need to just start again with this lot. Maybe the William Lewis Biggs I want isn't the one that married Louisa? Maybe all of this is a different family/families?

    1851 - William Lewis Biggs marries Louisa Aldred - Langley Bucks

    1852 - Birth of Ann Maria Biggs - Uxbridge Midx
    + Mother: Louisa Biggs formerly Aldred
    + Father: William Lewis Biggs - Salesman - Salters Lodge, Hayes Midx

    1852 - Baptism of Ann Maria Biggs - Hayes Midx
    + William Lewis & Louisa Biggs, Cattle Dealer

    1853 - Birth of Walter Biggs - Hounslow Midx
    + Mother: Louisa Biggs formerly Aldridge
    + Father: William Lewis Biggs - Dealer - Hillingdon Heath

    1854 - Death of Ann Maria Biggs age 2 - Kensington Midx
    + Father: William Biggs - Servant - Kensington Midx (same address as death of Walter)

    1854 - Death of Walter Biggs age 1 - Kensington
    + Father: William Biggs - Servant - Kensington Midx (same address as death of Ann Maria)

    1855 - Birth of Arthur Biggs - Kensington
    + Mother: Louisa Biggs formerly Aldred
    + Father: William Lewis Biggs - Police Constable!! - Kensington Midx (same address as death of Ann Maria & Walter)

    1857 - Birth of Charles James Biggs - West Drayton, Midx
    + Mother: Louisa Biggs formerly Aldred
    + Father: William Lewis Biggs - Painter - West Drayton

    1861 - Birth of Selina Biggs - Uxbridge
    + Mother: Louisa Biggs formerly Aldridge
    + Father: William Lewis Biggs - Gardener - Uxbridge

    1864 - Birth of William Lewis Biggs - Croydon
    + Mother: Louisa Biggs formerly Aldridge
    + Father: William Lewis Biggs - Grocer - Croydon

    1865 - Birth of Ellen Biggs/Aldridge - Brentford
    1867 - Birth of Frederick Biggs/Aldred - Brentford
    1868 - Birth of Thomas Clent Biggs/Aldred - Brentford

    Ann Maria is born to Louisa Aldred, so I have to think this is the correct child. If that's the case, then Walter must also be theirs, as they both die at the same address 2 days apart. Unless.. both deaths plus the birth of Walter are unrelated to this family. But then the question is, where did Ann Maria go?

    Then Arthur comes along.. same address as the two children that died. Parents names match perfectly.. but William is now a police constable?? Then painter, grocer.. I think it's clear there is more than one family here!

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    Haven't read the whole thread, but I just wanted to say don't take too much notice of the various different occupations. To me, this looks like a man taking any work he can get, on a casual basis perhaps, and really the records only reflect what work he did most recently. I have several instances in my own tree of wildly different occupations for one man, example being a paper factory owner employing 300 hands, next census he is a sweet shop owner, then an oilman, then a gardener. Definitely the same man throughout.

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    I have no specialist knowledge in careers in that era, but to my mind none of them require special skiils eg from years of training, and could easily have drifted around. the police man could be that he did it and was soon booted out, just been reading the wiki page!

    seems that the mothers name is so the same, in the census do you have a bunch of them at each snapshot, maybe a closer scrutiny? - just not those that died in infancy? any school records?

    i assume 'grocer' could just mean he worked in a grocers shop, he is the one telling registrar what he does.
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    just crossed posts with OC, so we are on same page on thinking!
    Last edited by cbcarolyn; 15-02-20 at 10:50.
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    Still not able to find a marriage between William Lewis Biggs and Amelia Groves..

    Can anyone else see anything? According to 1911 census, it could be somewhere around 1868.

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    I've tried 10 years either side of 1868 with various combinations eg BIGGS/GROVES, BIGGS/Amelia and also drawn a blank.

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    I wonder if they got married, there must be plenty that just say they are. Especially as she must have been pregnant fairly soon after the death of his first wife.

    I tried Briggs too, and tried without Groves in case she had been married before.
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