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    Quote Originally Posted by pearlyred View Post
    I hadn't even considered Louisa and Susanna were the same person! Not sure how that name could be there instead. Nothing mentioned on her baptism record so assume it's not a second name.

    You're right though, there's a charles and an arthur that fit the timeline with the surname Aldred. Not sure how I missed that before.

    I assume there's no other records from that time (other than census) that might show them living together?

    Many people used (probably still do!) names that they were not given at baptism or on registration!

    I have one friend who was given a different name when she began work as a technician at an English university, purely and simply because the Chief Technician (her boss) didn't want 2 people with the same name, and he already had another girl with friend's given name.

    She had a lot to do with students, 100s of them over the years, and any from the mid-50s to late 60s know her only by the "false" name ............... except the boys who dated her got to know her real name! It can lead to some interesting conversations of "Do you remember ..........." between people who know or don't know the facts!

    OH knew but I didn't until a couple of years after we married when we had that conversation
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    My parents at my brother's wedding, March 1952

    Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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    I also found a couple of other children born in the same region that match Biggs/Aldred, both of which seem to have died young, which may explain them not being on the 1861 census. They both died in the same quarter of the same year, so could be interesting to find out why.

    This is what I potentially have so far:

    1851 - William Lewis Biggs marries Louisa Aldred - Langley Bucks

    1852 - Birth of Ann Maria Biggs/Aldred - Uxbridge
    1853 - Birth of Walter Biggs/Aldridge - Uxbridge
    1854 - Death of Ann Maria Biggs age 2 - Kensington
    1854 - Death of Walter Biggs age 1 - Kensington
    1855 - Birth of Arthur Biggs/Aldred - Kensington
    1857 - Birth of Charles James Biggs/Aldred - Uxbridge
    1861 - Birth of Selina Biggs/Aldridge - Uxbridge
    1864 - Birth of William Lewis Biggs/Aldridge - Croydon?
    1865 - Birth of Ellen Biggs/Aldridge - Brentford
    1867 - Birth of Frederick Biggs/Aldred - Brentford
    1868 - Birth of Thomas Clent Biggs/Aldred - Brentford

    ???? Rose/Rosa
    ???? Ellennor

    This is all prior to him marrying Amelia Groves. Unsure about William Lewis, born in Croydon. Seems a bit odd compared to the others who are pretty consistent in region. He also doesn't appear on the 1871 census with the rest of the family, so he either died or he's not part of this family.

    Assuming this is on the right track, current questions are:

    1. Who is Rose/Rosa Biggs? Where/when born..
    2. Is William Lewis Biggs part of this family? Did he die before the 1871 census?
    3. Who is Ellennor Biggs in the 1861 census. Is this Selina in later census?
    4. What happened to Louisa Aldred..why did William remarry?

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    I can't find Rose birth at all, but will have another look, now that it looks as though on the right track

    I think this is Louisa burial - Acton is Ealing
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...793.1535224975

    Will look at q 2 and 4 tomorrow
    Carolyn
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    Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
    Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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    Oh good catch Carolyn. That would have her dying shortly after the birth of Thomas Clent Biggs, perhaps from complications? Death is on GRO so will be able to get a cert for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by cbcarolyn View Post
    I can't find Rose birth at all, but will have another look, now that it looks as though on the right track

    I think this is Louisa burial - Acton is Ealing
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...793.1535224975

    Will look at q 2 and 4 tomorrow

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    Does the age fit?? Brentford is the Registration District that includes Acton and Ealing

    from GRO

    BIGGS, LOUISA 38
    GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 54


    Sorry, I missed that you already knew the death was on GRO
    Last edited by Sylvia C; 01-02-20 at 04:18.
    My parents at my brother's wedding, March 1952

    Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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    Potentially Syliva. It's not perfect..

    Her marriage (March 1851) has her age as 19 and puts her DOB around 1832. She was also baptised in 1832.

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    I notice that he was soon quick to move in with another, barely a gap in children, I wasn't certain it was her. As he has children with him in census and he remarried (although not found that record), I assumed that she must have died.
    Carolyn
    http://www.familytree.chatandthat.co.uk/home/

    Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
    Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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    I am quite fancying this death as one of yours too:
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...=successSource

    Name: William Lewis Biggs
    Age: 18 months
    Record Type: Burial
    Birth Date: abt 1851
    Death Date: abt 1852
    Burial Date: 11 Aug 1852
    Burial Place: Hayes, Hillingdon, England
    Register Type: Parish Register

    birth would have been March 1851, which seems not obviously found....same time as marriage.

    I feel his first born would have his name.
    Carolyn
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    Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
    Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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    Ooh, interesting. I hadn't seen that one, but the dates work well.

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    did have another look for a birth and failed.

    I did wonder if this is them in 1851 (a railway porter) https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...69/edit/record

    odd to be all the way in Royston, but guess only a train trip away.

    that would mean he could have been born there and then they returned straightaway. Only one William Biggs and don't fancy MMN

    Do you have 1851 census?

    after that he is a gardener, but it could be an acceptable career change. I assume he is working in Cranford House as he put 'Cranford'

    Rose is nowhere to be seen.
    Carolyn
    http://www.familytree.chatandthat.co.uk/home/

    Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
    Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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