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    here (not sure why it's there - if it's because of the 'adopted bit' then he wasn't adopted) - can anyone help with it at all please?



    Update - trying to find William/Robert Hatch on the 1881 census.
    His parents both died 1880.
    One brother Aaron is also missing on this census but I have him on the 1891/1901
    One sister is down as Lizzie lodging on this census - can't find her after this census
    One brother James is a pauper in the Sheffield Union Workhouse Fir Vale (have checked for other Hatch's and can't see any) on this census
    Another sister Rose Ann / Rosanne b. 1865 dies in 1886 but cannot find her on 1881
    and finally Rebecca b. 1869 dies in 1874.

    Any help or ideas would be much appreciated

  • #2
    you already have this sorry
    Last edited by Guest; 10-11-19, 20:22.

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    • #3
      is this your Aarons marriage ?
      Aaron Hatch
      Gender: Male
      Age: 28
      Birth Date: 1856
      Marriage Date: 8 Jun 1884
      Marriage Place: St. Martin'S, Lincoln, England
      Father: William Hatch
      Spouse: Emma Minkley
      FHL Film Number: 989858
      Reference ID: 234

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      • #4
        Hi Val, what do you mean? Back in 2008/2009 when I originally posted I couldn't establish between William and Robert but we worked out he was the same guy. I have never found him or his missing siblings (above) on the 1881 census. It's on the sensitive research section for some reason but thought I would get a better look up from people on the family history page?
        Thanks anyway

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        • #5
          I am confused, the thread says you have the 1881 census, which I think Val posted?



          so is this not correct? different person?
          Carolyn
          Family Tree site

          Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
          Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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          • #6
            No, this is NOT the William I am after - the old thread (it does say somewhere it wasn't him) explores the 'adopted' William but he is not mine!
            Yes thats the correct Aaron

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            • #7
              Had a quick look, but nothing obvious found.

              I did find a 1939 census with a Frances - who could be the daughter, but both said married, so didn't make sense for her surname. Did he remarry? But guess you want older records anyway.
              Carolyn
              Family Tree site

              Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
              Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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              • #8
                Elizabeth's marriage ?

                Elizabeth
                Last name Hatch
                Age 20
                Birth year 1861
                Residence Franklin Street
                Marriage year 1881
                Marriage date 07 Jun 1881
                Marriage place Sheffield, St Mary, Bramall Lane
                Spouse's first name(s) Henry
                Spouse's last name Beaumont
                Spouse's age 21
                Spouse's residence Franklin Street
                Father's first name(s) William
                Father's last name Hatch
                Spouse's father's first name(s) Robert
                Spouse's father's last name Beaumont
                County Yorkshire (West Riding)
                Country England
                Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies
                Archive reference PR-56-2-8
                Page 235
                Record set Yorkshire Marriages

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                • #9
                  and her burial

                  Elizabeth
                  Last name Beaumont
                  Age 57
                  Birth year 1862
                  Burial year 1919
                  Burial date 25 Oct 1919
                  Burial place Sheffield, City Road Cemetery
                  Spouse's first name(s) Henry
                  County Yorkshire (West Riding)
                  Country England
                  Archive reference -
                  Page 27
                  Record set Yorkshire Burials

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                  • #10
                    you sure this isn't William Roberts Birth Reg?? says Robert not William

                    Robert Hatch
                    Registration Year: 1873
                    Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
                    Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
                    Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
                    Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
                    Volume: 9c
                    Page: 351

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                    • #11
                      wonder if this is him , but name mistranscribed?

                      Thomas Hatch
                      Age: 9
                      Estimated birth year: abt 1872
                      Gender: Male
                      Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire , England
                      Civil Parish: Everton
                      County/Island: Lancashire
                      Country: England
                      Street address: "Catholic Boys Indust Sch" Beacon Lane
                      Education:
                      Employment status:
                      View image
                      Registration district: West Derby
                      ED, institution, or vessel: The Catholic Boys Orphanage Industrial School
                      Piece: 3673
                      Folio: 90
                      Page Number: 8

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                      • #12
                        Carolyn, yes he's registered as Robert William and that is his birth! But from then on he is William - just confuse us!! I imagined he would be with an older sibling or aunt/uncle when his parents died but I can't see him with an oldr sibling anywhere but yes this is a good maybe as it is an orphanage! I'll have a look and see for a Thomas Hatch!
                        Thanks

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                        • #13
                          Also forgot to add that we are unable to find William/Robert on the 1891 as well

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                          • #14
                            NB it was Val Thomas is looking a good possible, kind of thing that happens in school. Like when you go to open evening without child and they are not sure who he is....

                            there is a william hatch here in 1891 a Tailor


                            Name: William Hatch
                            Gender: Male
                            Age: 19
                            Relationship: Lodger
                            Birth Year: 1872
                            Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
                            Civil Parish: Putney
                            Residence Place: Rockhampton, Putney, London, England
                            Sub registration district: Putney
                            ED, Institution or Vessel: 15
                            Neighbors: View others on page
                            Piece: 453
                            Folio: 146
                            Last edited by cbcarolyn; 11-11-19, 09:52.
                            Carolyn
                            Family Tree site

                            Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                            Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                            • #15
                              and this is the 1939 register if of use:


                              Name: William R HatchGender: Male
                              Marital status: Married
                              Birth Date: 25 Mar
                              Residence Year: 1939
                              Address: 32
                              Residence Place: Mitcham, Surrey, England
                              Occupation: Tailor
                              Schedule Number: 134
                              Sub Schedule Number: 1
                              Enumeration District: CNAX
                              Registration district: 31/1
                              Carolyn
                              Family Tree site

                              Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                              Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                              • #16
                                Sorry Val - thank you!
                                Carolyn, yes thats him thank you

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                                • #17
                                  cannot find a Thomas Hatch born abt 1872 Sheffield so reckon that Thomas is likely to be him.

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                                  • #18
                                    Elizabeth Beaumont burial 1919

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                                    • #19
                                      Thanks everyone - mystery now solved for William finally Elizabeth now sorted, now to look for the other info. we're missing for the siblings!
                                      You are all great

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                                      • #20
                                        wrong man
                                        Last edited by Guest; 12-11-19, 00:35.

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