Marriage look up please

[cbcarolyn]

That's the one I was looking at last night, Elizabeth is as Tootell 1871 in Trimdon and brother Thomas.

Looking at it, there is only one Joseph Potts 1901 I can see in London, our man; I can't account for this marriage on FMP

Q4 1896 Stepney
Joseph Potts to Catherine Elizabeth Ely, Ann Sissons

I can't see them on the census either.

[cbcarolyn]

An interesting entry though, as Essex Street (No 18) was one of the addresses on the Removal Order

That is why I thought it was right, there are several entries that match with the addresses on the order, so assumed I was on right track. Maybe his wife died, but can't see it with a glance.

[teasie]

Looks like his death :( I don't know if Val had a death to start with.

I can't decide if this is senior?

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/7572/DURRG11_4896_4900-0142?pid=3883961&treeid=161314848&personid=222133377449&usePUB=true&_phsrc=fVi16162&_phstart=successSource

Living in my home town! Yes, it looks to me as though it's him. PoB is Castleside on this and also the 1911. Castleside is near Consett.

The road they were living on, Kingston Street, isn't there anymore, but if any of you watched Benefits Street a few years back [Kingston Road, Stockton], that's the exact area.

[teasie]

That is why I thought it was right, there are several entries that match with the addresses on the order, so assumed I was on right track. Maybe his wife died, but can't see it with a glance.

Sorry if I'm being slow, but the entry you snipped had Sarah on it too.

[teasie]

I'm trying to decide if Joseph Potts, Service No. 3892 & 266156, Middlesex Regiment is him. Birth year given as 1877, and addresses listed as 84 Welbury Street, Dalston (Hackney), 31 Casterton Place, Hackney (Demob address), and 14 Barnsley House, Barnsley Street, Bethnal Green. Unfortunately its one of the burnt records so some information is lost.

[teasie]

There's a newspaper report in 1922 that I think may be the son. The headline is 'Twenty Policemen To Arrest One Man', the man being Joseph Potts, carman, 25! It mentions him being outside a house in Essex Street, then going inside & coming back out with a big log of wood and threatening to bash the policeman's brains out with it. He then wrenched out some iron railings and threw them at the police, and later on threw glass, flower pots and pieces of iron at them. Blimey!

[cbcarolyn]

Sorry if I'm being slow, but the entry you snipped had Sarah on it too.

sorry went to bed!
I found marriage for Joseph junior before 1922, and thought he would be with wife as in post 45, I can't find a death for her. or maybe she too young to get on there then, I think you had to be over 30 so that would make sense, until 1928.

[cbcarolyn]

There's a newspaper report in 1922 that I think may be the son. The headline is 'Twenty Policemen To Arrest One Man', the man being Joseph Potts, carman, 25! It mentions him being outside a house in Essex Street, then going inside & coming back out with a big log of wood and threatening to bash the policeman's brains out with it. He then wrenched out some iron railings and threw them at the police, and later on threw glass, flower pots and pieces of iron at them. Blimey!

ooh, sounds nasty, what had he done. certainly sounds like him

[cbcarolyn]

I'm trying to decide if Joseph Potts, Service No. 3892 & 266156, Middlesex Regiment is him. Birth year given as 1877, and addresses listed as 84 Welbury Street, Dalston (Hackney), 31 Casterton Place, Hackney (Demob address), and 14 Barnsley House, Barnsley Street, Bethnal Green. Unfortunately its one of the burnt records so some information is lost.

I found reg of electors
1907 and 8 at Wickham street
1912 Mill row
1921 Essex Street

[cbcarolyn]

in 1923 there is only Joseph Henry Potts in Essex street

then in the 1930s there is a Jospeh Henry Potts in 56 Oldfield street with Joseph Thomas Henry and Mary Ann Louisa

[Chrissie Smiff]

then in the 1930s there is a Jospeh Henry Potts in 56 Oldfield street with Joseph Thomas Henry and Mary Ann Louisa

That family in 1939 are Joseph Thomas H Potts born 1875 with his wife Mary Ann Louise nee Wright who he married in 1906 and the son Joseph H Potts born 1917 -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/61596/tna_r39_0567_0567b_014?pid=8961674&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db%3D1939UKRegister%26indiv%3Dtry%26h%3D8961674&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.258877322.1406066886.1569669295-22690376.1569143934#?imageId=tna_r39_0567_0567b_014

[Chrissie Smiff]

I'm not really 'on top' of this thread but has someone discounted this death please? As I can't find a likely birth and the age is almost right isn't it?

Deaths Mar 1926 - Potts Joseph H 27 Shoreditch 1c 47

[cbcarolyn]

I didn't like the look of the Oldfield Street lot, so glad that has discounted them.

Elaine posted the Death post 76

[teasie]

I'm not really 'on top' of this thread but has someone discounted this death please? As I can't find a likely birth and the age is almost right isn't it?

Deaths Mar 1926 - Potts Joseph H 27 Shoreditch 1c 47

Post #76 identified this as the son's likely death, but we don't have absolute confirmation.

[cbcarolyn]

Looks like his death :( I don't know if Val had a death to start with.

I can't decide if this is senior?

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/7572/DURRG11_4896_4900-0142?pid=3883961&treeid=161314848&personid=222133377449&usePUB=true&_phsrc=fVi16162&_phstart=successSource

Elizabeth is from Chorley

Name Age
George Potts 29
Elizabeth Potts 23
Henry Potts 3

Living in my home town! Yes, it looks to me as though it's him. PoB is Castleside on this and also the 1911. Castleside is near Consett.

The road they were living on, Kingston Street, isn't there anymore, but if any of you watched Benefits Street a few years back [Kingston Road, Stockton], that's the exact area.

How funny they are in your home town

Joseph Henry (George Thomas) is just Henry - which is what is confusing

[Guest]

Blimey you have all been busy I cannot keep up, am getting old you know , shall be reading through and making notes.
That Newspaper report looks interesting too.
Thanks all

[GallowayLass]

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 for Joseph Henry PottsShoreditch and Stepney Shoreditch and Stepney 1921

A confusing entry, as Jospeh married? maybe it is not them

Ooh! Well found. Amazed that since I sloped off to bed last night the amount of info found has growed like Topsy.

[teasie]

I still don't know where Joseph goes after Sarah's death though - can anyone else find him? He had a torrid few years by the looks of it, with his wife, son & daughter all dying:

KEEN, SARAH aged 43 GRO Reference: 1922 J Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 114 (also on FreeBMD as Potts)
CLAYDEN, SARAH aged 21 GRO Reference: 1923 J Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 61
POTTS, JOSEPH HENRY aged 27 GRO Reference: 1926 M Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 47

[cbcarolyn]

I still don't know where Joseph goes after Sarah's death though - can anyone else find him? He had a torrid few years by the looks of it, with his wife, son & daughter all dying:

KEEN, SARAH aged 43 GRO Reference: 1922 J Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 114 (also on FreeBMD as Potts)
CLAYDEN, SARAH aged 21 GRO Reference: 1923 J Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 61
POTTS, JOSEPH HENRY aged 27 GRO Reference: 1926 M Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 47

I saw the death for daughter Sarah, I did wonder if her husband is in the reg of elector that I put up earlier, spelt Claydon. He remarries. I hadn't found the death or Sarah Keen. He maybe with one of the other children.

[Guest]

so much has been added I've lost the plot, thanks all, am slowly going through it.