Edward Cooper c1813-1849

[Elaine]

Have you picked up the second marriage of John Edward jnr 1895?

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=FhD24290&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&indiv=1&dbid=1623&cp=4&msfng=john%20edward&msfns=cooper&msbdy=1846&msbdy_x=1&msbdp=5&new=1&rank=1&uidh=adw&redir=false&gss=angs-d&pcat=34&fh=0&h=4747375&recoff=&ml_rpos=1

father John Edward solicitor, same details as first marriage

[cbcarolyn]

Odd that the 1841 and the directory has 'Accountant', and the swapping of Edward and John isn't helping!

[SmallTownGirl]

Odd that the 1841 and the directory has 'Accountant', and the swapping of Edward and John isn't helping!

So, I've got a gentleman/solicitor/accountant called Edward John/John Edward/Edward or any combination of as the fancy takes him and his rellies.

Arghhhhhhh!

My friend is sending me some paperwork from previous research and I've got my fingers crossed it will help. But then I am an optimist ;D

STG

[cbcarolyn]

be interested to see how it pans out, certainly an interesting branch, got me hooked!

Have you done any newspaper searching? I thought that the road was interesting that they were in as artists all along there.

[cbcarolyn]

Have you picked up the second marriage of John Edward jnr 1895?

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=FhD24290&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&indiv=1&dbid=1623&cp=4&msfng=john%20edward&msfns=cooper&msbdy=1846&msbdy_x=1&msbdp=5&new=1&rank=1&uidh=adw&redir=false&gss=angs-d&pcat=34&fh=0&h=4747375&recoff=&ml_rpos=1

father John Edward solicitor, same details as first marriage

I didn't see another :( , wondering if it is worth mapping out all of the addresses, of all the documents and see if they gives any clues to their roots. most of tthe adresses I have are all in a similar area.

[SmallTownGirl]

If Edward/John Edward/whatever-his-name-was, was really a solicitor, or even an accountant, would he have had to qualify somewhere? Would he have needed a degree? Might that help me find out where he was from, etc?

Yes, Bohemian lot artists, aren't they?

Am still puzzling as to why (a) Edward and Mary Ann didn't marry until a few weeks before their third child was born and (b) why he didn't leave (or I just can find) a will for him.

I did try newspapers for Edward, and did find one who was a solicitor, but they were all after he died - so probably not him! ;D

As soon as friend's paperwork arrives, I'll be back with an update.

Thanks for your help/interest.
STG

[vera2013]

I note from Carolyn's directory entry for Edward as Accountant/Commission Agent that FMP have info on a Bankrupty hearing for an AKA as Edward Cooper Hooper in 1939 Great Russell Street. Not seeing any likely Hooper in official records though.
I have my doubts about him being a Solicitor. Wonder if there is a Law Directory similar to that of the Medical Directory

Vera

[vera2013]

EDIT above. Cant now find that he was AKA. So maybe a different chap

Vera

[SmallTownGirl]

EDIT above. Cant now find that he was AKA. So maybe a different chap

Vera

That one seems to be Edward Cooper Pullibank, aka Hooper, an actor and theatrical agent. Probably a different chap to the Edward I'm on the trail of.

Thanks anyway. You never know where a lead takes you, do you?

STG

[vera2013]

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/lawyers-further-research/

This site may have some info to eliminate or otherwise your Edward as a Solicitor. Cant search online but there is a live chat for pointers

Vera

[cbcarolyn]

on https://archive.org there are some publications that list barristers publications as mentioned in this wiki, search via google for the publication and you will find it:

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Lawyers_in_England_and_Wales

eg grays inn, but can't find any solicitor lists. :(

Ancestry has The law lists, but nothing on there.

[cbcarolyn]

I have tried a quick search in the newspapers - and have had some strange results if i put in "17. Howland" - brings up another solicitor, but seems the right address, I don't have a sub to have a look through, but maybe before they moved in.

Was hoping an obit would be in there.

[cbcarolyn]

I have tried a quick search in the newspapers - and have had some strange results if i put in "17. Howland" - brings up another solicitor, but seems the right address, I don't have a sub to have a look through, but maybe before they moved in.

Was hoping an obit would be in there.

Just realised that there is a John Townshend also at the same address that is the one in the newsapers.

[vera2013]

Tried 17 Howland on FMP. This ones for 1837. Maybe a bit young for our man and he is a CC

Capture Howland 17.JPG

Vera

[cbcarolyn]

I just love the wording of those ads think they moved in after 1841 as he was at 14 Compton Street in census. In 1843 he was at the address of the baptism - but haven't a clue what that says!

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1558/31280_194996-00360/1723916

[vera2013]

Not him then.

In todays world a bit oh er missus. Very respectable back in the day...I think

Vera

[teasie]

I just love the wording of those ads think they moved in after 1841 as he was at 14 Compton Street in census. In 1843 he was at the address of the baptism - but haven't a clue what that says!

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...-00360/1723916

I think it may be University Street

ADDED: Ive just looked at the marriage. Mary Ann's address was University Street, so I think it even more likely.

[Elaine]

Just found this in the papers

THE REPORTS.
the sum of 61. 15s. 6d. for the supply of the Law Times, &c. to Messrs. Townsend and Smith, solicitors, formerly of Howland-street. Cooper, from the office of Mr. Smith, took an objection to the summons, the plaintiff having sued Mr. Smith only. The Court
01 August 1848 - County Courts Chronicle - London, London, England

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000422%2f18480801%2f004&stringtohighlight=cooper%20howland-street

I just can't see the article on the link

Did find this one

Evening Mail 06 February 1850

[cbcarolyn]

I think it may be University Street

ADDED: Ive just looked at the marriage. Mary Ann's address was University Street, so I think it even more likely.

and also just spotted it is on Jessies death

[Elaine]

This one has a bit more

London Daily News 05 February 1850