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    St. Michael's, Dumfries.

    There's a memorial to one of my ancestors in the churchyard of St. Michael's in Dumfries.

    Anyone got any suggestions as to where to find who commissioned this quite large monument ?
    It was some time after 1858 but before 1876.

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    As far as I'm aware, churches don't keep records of gravestones per se. However, sometimes the stones have the name of the firm of masons on them - if you're lucky, they might still be in business and have the relevant records and details (for adding additional names, carrying out repairs etc.) Bit of a long shot, but might be worth a try.

    Bear in mind that memorials can be erected decades after a death and also that people named on a churchyard memorial may not have been buried there.

    Jay
    Last edited by Janet in Yorkshire; 19-08-19 at 12:23.
    Janet in Yorkshire



    Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cath RJ View Post
    There's a memorial to one of my ancestors in the churchyard of St. Michael's in Dumfries.

    Anyone got any suggestions as to where to find who commissioned this quite large monument ?
    It was some time after 1858 but before 1876.
    Cath, can you tell me who your relative is as I can easily nip in to main library and check the MI books. Gravestones usually have the name of the person who purchased the lair and stone at the top eg. Erected by Joe Bloggs in loving memory of his wife Jean Doe. If you can get back to me by return, I can also go up to St. Michael’s and get a photo if you would like one as it’s a nice day here at moment.

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    Thank you so much.
    The monument is quite close to the Burns Memorial. It's red sandstone and the first person mentioned is Agnes Lee (again!).
    It also mentions George Graham etc. Just underneath there is a sliver of stone which says Charles Graham, a baker. He was Agnes's husband who died later in 1869.

    It was a bit difficult to read but we never thought to look for the name of the purchaser.

    Got a photo already but it's not very clear - if you can manage a better one I'd be soooo grateful.
    Last edited by Cath RJ; 19-08-19 at 13:16.

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    Will do. Hubby tells me that it’s persisting down in Dumfries so will take anorak with me. Don’t worry about that, I know my way around so it won’t take me too long to find it. Gives me the perfect excuse to go to town for a loaf of the bread I like LOL It’s still lovely here but have taken in the washing just in case.

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    Gosh, GL, wish my rellies came from the borders! Nothing like that available for any of the churchyards near me, although the municipal cemeteries might keep relevant records of gravestones.

    Jay
    Janet in Yorkshire



    Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janet in Yorkshire View Post
    Gosh, GL, wish my rellies came from the borders! Nothing like that available for any of the churchyards near me, although the municipal cemeteries might keep relevant records of gravestones.

    Jay
    Have you checked with any local FHS, they are usually the ones whose members do the MI recording and publish them either as CDs or paper booklets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cath RJ View Post
    Thank you so much.
    The monument is quite close to the Burns Memorial. It's red sandstone and the first person mentioned is Agnes Lee (again!).
    It also mentions George Graham etc. Just underneath there is a sliver of stone which says Charles Graham, a baker. He was Agnes's husband who died later in 1869.

    It was a bit difficult to read but we never thought to look for the name of the purchaser.

    Got a photo already but it's not very clear - if you can manage a better one I'd be soooo grateful.
    Quite close ?? It is right next to! Found it no problem. Managed to get a nice spell between the rain showers but that was a double edged sword for the photo shoot as the inscription is on the side that meant I had the sun right in my eyes but I am sure I got it all in bits as closeups and couple of shots for location purposes. Both my iPad and phone are dying so will upload this evening after dinner is out of the way :-)
    Last edited by GallowayLass; 19-08-19 at 16:10.

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    Thank you so much. It's many years since I was there so I just remembered it being near the Burns one. I had the same problem with the sun when I tried to get a photo. I've just scrutinised my old photo with a magnifying glass but can't find any mention of a stone mason etc,

    I hope you didn't get too wet on my behalf. I've been like a jack in the box today nursing my washing.
    x

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    Sorry about any confusion over who the stonemason was. The person who commissioned the monument will either be Agnes’ husband or son. Unless one of the deceased on a large monument was an especially well known person and/or a public subscription was raised to purchase said monument you are not likely to find out who built/carved it. If it was such a one, there might be a chance that the name of the stonemason would be mentioned in a newspaper report of the erection of the monument particularly if it is a very elaborate one and it’s creator was thought to be worth a mention. Or, as is ever the way of the world, the mason knew the journalist and got a bit of free publicity LOL
    Last edited by GallowayLass; 19-08-19 at 18:17.

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