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Service Record for The Royal Engineers 1891? finding Richard Kean b Manchester 1860
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On his Marriage Cert, in June 1893, my Grandfather gives his Father as:
'William Wilson (Deceased) Occupation Mason'.
The problem is that I've never been able to find them together. I've never found a definate for William James Wilson's Father, - the names are too common and there is too little to go on.
There's no problem with finding my Grandfather after his Marriage, - he just doesn't seem to exist before then!
Holly.
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Last edited by Katarzyna; 17-07-19, 10:38.Kat
My avatar is my mother 1921 - 2012
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To summarise...
William James Wilson says he was Born in Manchester in 1860.
Richard Kean was Born in Manchester in 1860/'63.
William James Wilson cannot be found anywhere before he Married Margaret Rees in Swansea in 1893.
Richard Kean is in Manchester, employed as a 'House Painter' on the 1881 Census.
Richard Kean is on the 1891 Census for Kent, as a Sapper in The Royal Engineers.
Richard Kean is nowhere to be found after that.
William James Wilson pops up as a House Painter in Swansea in 1893.
There is another William James Wilson, (Born 1865, Kent) on the 1891 Census for Swansea.
That William James Wilson Married Mary Shill and they have a child called 'William Havelock Wilson'. That child Dies in Infancy.
William James Wilson and Margaret Rees, (my Grandparents) Marry, and have a child called 'William Havelock Wilson (1894 - 1974).
My thought is that Richard Kean went AWOL, (or deserted) from the Royal Engineers. He knew the 'other' William James Wilson from Kent, and also went to Swansea...
Finally, - I have never been able to find my Grandfather before his Marriage, BUT, - I have DNA Matches to Richard Kean's wider family!!
Holly.
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Originally posted by Holly View PostThis is Richard Kean's (the younger) Signature on the Attestation Papers.
You are correct Kat, - the Signature that I had Posted was his Father's.
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Vera
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for those that have ancestry here are the links to the census that I have found - I think they are right, thought it might help
Richard Kean the elder
1841
1861
1871
1881
1891
richard the younger
1881
1891
1901
William wilson
1911
There does seem to be a Richard Kean in Salford and did notice one of his children was born in Hulme - he does seem to be the wrong age tooCarolyn
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Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff
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Originally posted by vera2013 View PostNot sure that is Richard Kean's signature Holly. Think his name was entered by another. Strange no signature in relevant space and why did Dad Richard have to vouch for him.
VeraCarolyn
Family Tree site
Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff
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Thanks for Posting all of those Links Carolyn, - much appreciated.
This is a PDF File of my Grandfather's Invention, 'The Wilson Air Purifier'; which made me wonder if he'd spent time in The Royal Engineers.
Holly.Attached FilesLast edited by Holly; 17-07-19, 16:57.
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very interesting, doesn't appear to be something the average painter would doCarolyn
Family Tree site
Researching: Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon; Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff
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