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Service Record for The Royal Engineers 1891? finding Richard Kean b Manchester 1860
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Last edited by cbcarolyn; 20-07-19, 21:03.Carolyn
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Last edited by cbcarolyn; 20-07-19, 22:05.Carolyn
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This could be his death:
Name: Thomas Kean
Death Age: 86
Birth Date: abt 1858
Registration Date: Jul 1944
[Aug 1944]
[Sep 1944]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 300Carolyn
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Originally posted by Holly View PostI have fairly high DNA Matches to... the Father, Nephew and Grandson....
Holly.
And - you need at least the father, and preferably also the nephew, to also migrate their results, especially if they have only tested at Ancestry. Knowing where you match will allow you to created Triangulated Groups, indicating a common ancestor.Last edited by PhotoFamily; 21-07-19, 00:41.
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Yes PhotoFamily,
I've up uploaded to GEDMatch, My Heritage, Family Tree DNA, etc. I've also tested with Living DNA.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to persuade my DNA match in Canada to upload anywhere else:-(
A lot of people have some funny ideas about DNA! I think that people also think that DNA test results are 'set in stone' and can't see the point of pursuing it further:-(
Holly.
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Originally posted by Holly View PostA lot of people have some funny ideas about DNA! I think that people also think that DNA test results are 'set in stone' and can't see the point of pursuing it further
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GedMatch updated their Privacy policy a short while back, - you can now choose if you wish to allow your DNA to be available for searching or not.
I'm guessing this was after 2 high profile cases were solved by using their data bases; the 'Buckskin Girl' murder and the 'Golden state' killer?
Holly.
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I assume that they do not have any of this Kean family in their tree? Any Manchester Keans?Carolyn
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I've now had a reply from The Royal Engineers Museum in Kent concerning who was at Shorncliffe Camp during the 1891 Census:
'A former Royal Engineers Librarian completed a list of companies and their locations for the period. I am pleased to say that after searching each company I can confirm that 38 Company were in Shorncliffe from 1889-1892 and the commanding officer was Major C H Darling
1892 moved to Chatham
1894 to Aldershot
1897 Curragh
1899 South Africa for the Boer War (no more detailed info into where though)
1905 Stobs Camp, Roxburgshire
1906 Disbanded
Before Shorncliffe the company was in Curragh.
Which is all very interesting, - however, it doesn't really help me to ascertain whether any records remain concerning possible desertions beween 1891 - '93...
Holly.
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Have you managed to find any other data, not sure where you had got to.Carolyn
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aww I am sorry to hear your news :(Carolyn
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how true, my parents are a similar age.Carolyn
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If Richard Kean were a deserter - would there be a list of deserters anywhere, and can it be recovered?
But didn't you say that he seemed to have money that allowed him to set up his business, and that you thought (or knew?) that it was from the RE service? I don't think he would have had any reward for deserting ;)Last edited by PhotoFamily; 29-10-19, 17:14.
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No lists of deserters were kept in peacetime.
I'm merely guessing that he's possibly my Grandfather. Some of my DNA Matches are from the Kean/Butler families from Manchester. Richard Kean, born 1860 Manchester, was the son of Richard Kean and Frances Butler.
In the report into Bankruptcy proceedings against my Grandfather in Swansea in 1899, he says that he started his Business with the sum of £36 in 1895. There is no way of knowing where this came from!
Holly.
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Just reviewing everything that I have on this family...
A kind person on the Manchester Forum found the Baptisms at St Wilfreds RC Church, Hulme, (now held at The Lancashire Archives) for Mary Agnes, Joseph, and Catherine Kean, between 1882 and 1885.
I’ve now found 3 Admissions for Richard Kean to The Manchester Workhouse (Withington) between 1891 and 1893. If I’m reading it correctly, it looks like he Died in The Workhouse in January 1893:-(
And so Richard Kean, born Manchester 1860, wasn’t my Grandfather...!
Holly.
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I don't recall all the details - wasn't there 2 Richard Keans in Manchester?
did you make any progress the DNA match?Carolyn
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