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Thread: Where can I find a Service Record for The Royal Engineers, 1891?

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    To summarise...

    William James Wilson says he was Born in Manchester in 1860.

    Richard Kean was Born in Manchester in 1860/'63.

    William James Wilson cannot be found anywhere before he Married Margaret Rees in Swansea in 1893.

    Richard Kean is in Manchester, employed as a 'House Painter' on the 1881 Census.

    Richard Kean is on the 1891 Census for Kent, as a Sapper in The Royal Engineers.

    Richard Kean is nowhere to be found after that.

    William James Wilson pops up as a House Painter in Swansea in 1893.

    There is another William James Wilson, (Born 1865, Kent) on the 1891 Census for Swansea.

    That William James Wilson Married Mary Shill and they have a child called 'William Havelock Wilson'. That child Dies in Infancy.

    William James Wilson and Margaret Rees, (my Grandparents) Marry, and have a child called 'William Havelock Wilson (1894 - 1974).

    My thought is that Richard Kean went AWOL, (or deserted) from the Royal Engineers. He knew the 'other' William James Wilson from Kent, and also went to Swansea...

    Finally, - I have never been able to find my Grandfather before his Marriage, BUT, - I have DNA Matches to Richard Kean's wider family!!

    Holly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    Now, - to return to William James Wilson.

    This is him on the 1911 Census:

    Attachment 20170
    Even enlarged it's still too small to read.
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    What is the size limit on Attachments on here?

    It wouldn't let me attach a full size copy.

    William James Wilson is at 99 St Helens Road, Swansea on the 1911, I'll see if I can find the Refs.

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    The Reference to the 1911 Census is:

    RG14 Piece: 32759 Schedule No: 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    This is Richard Kean's (the younger) Signature on the Attestation Papers.

    You are correct Kat, - the Signature that I had Posted was his Father's.

    Holly.Attachment 20169
    Not sure that is Richard Kean's signature Holly. Think his name was entered by another. Strange no signature in relevant space and why did Dad Richard have to vouch for him.

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    I don't know Vera:-(

    I haven't seen many British Army Attestation Papers, - most of my ancestors were in The Royal Navy.

    Holly.

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    for those that have ancestry here are the links to the census that I have found - I think they are right, thought it might help
    Richard Kean the elder
    1841
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...15398086/facts
    1861
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...15398086/facts
    1871
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...15398086/facts
    1881
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...15398086/facts
    1891
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...79/edit/record

    richard the younger
    1881
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...15397343/facts
    1891
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...15397343/facts

    1901
    William wilson
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...14851492/facts

    1911
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...14851492/facts

    There does seem to be a Richard Kean in Salford and did notice one of his children was born in Hulme - he does seem to be the wrong age too
    Carolyn

    Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
    Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
    Plant, Skinner - Lincs ....all moved to London
    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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    Quote Originally Posted by vera2013 View Post
    Not sure that is Richard Kean's signature Holly. Think his name was entered by another. Strange no signature in relevant space and why did Dad Richard have to vouch for him.

    Vera
    I thought that it odd that his Dad had to vouch for him at that age, but as never seen this sort of thing before thought it was usual.
    Carolyn

    Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
    Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
    Plant, Skinner - Lincs ....all moved to London
    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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    Thanks for Posting all of those Links Carolyn, - much appreciated.

    This is a PDF File of my Grandfather's Invention, 'The Wilson Air Purifier'; which made me wonder if he'd spent time in The Royal Engineers.

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    very interesting, doesn't appear to be something the average painter would do
    Carolyn

    Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
    Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
    Plant, Skinner - Lincs ....all moved to London
    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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