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    Where can I find a Service Record for The Royal Engineers, 1891?

    Hello,

    I have Richard Kean, age 28yrs, Born Manchester, (1860/'63) on the 1891 Census for Kent:


    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/1...edium=copy-url

    There is an Entry on Ancestry on the WW1 Medal Rolls for a Richard Kean, - but this man would have been in his mid 50's by then, - and so probably not him?

    There is another Army Record for a Richard Kean on Ancestry, which shows him enlisting for The Manchester Regiment. I've downloaded the Attestation papers, and it is for the right man, as it names his Father, also Richard Kean, of 6 Harper Street, Hulme, Manchester.

    Could anyone on here please tell me if it's possible to access the Service Record for the Richard Kean shown on the 1891 Census?

    I can then ascertain if I'm following the same man.

    Cheers, Holly.

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    Richard in Shorncliffe Camp in 1891 appears to be a
    widower.
    Does that fit with 'your' Richard ?

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    Thanks for your reply Gwyn.

    I hadn't noticed the Widower part, - is that on the 1891 Census?

    I have found him on the 1881 Census, working as a 'House Painter' in Manchester, and Married to Margaret, - but I couldn't find a Marriage for them.

    Holly.
    Last edited by Holly; 15-07-19 at 12:13.

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    My RE ancestor was serving about the time that yours was born.

    Attestation papers/Chelsea Pensioners papers are on (and indexed on) FindMyPast. But, if like my ancestor, yours did not serve until pension (21 years, I believe), then his attestation papers were probably not preserved.

    I was successful hiring a researcher to find his payroll entries at Kew. As I recall, REs are especially difficult because they didn't stay with one regiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    Married to Margaret, - but I couldn't find a Marriage for them.
    May be an indication that they married while posted outside of Britain. I was fortunate in that mine was in Ireland at the time, and I have an Irish Civil Reg record for it. Can't find the parish record for it, nor the baptism of their first son about 10 months later.

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    Many Thanks for that PhotoFamily, - much appreciated.

    It is puzzling, - because I can't find a Death for Margaret Kean either, but if they were out of the country, - perhaps that would explain it.

    I had found the Payroll and Muster Books on The National Archives Site, but they seem quite tricky to Search...

    I will have to give it some more thought.

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    Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
    Draffin William Henry Chorlton 8c 1064 Draffin and Fox found on 1881
    Fox Sarah Emma Chorlton 8c 1064
    KEAN Richard Chorlton 8c 1064 >>>>>> No Partner so probably to a Margaret. Haven't time to look at present.
    Moore Olivia Chorlton 8c 1064 Moore and Redfern found on 1881
    REDFERN George Chorlton 8c 1064
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    thanks Kat.

    I had found that one, but it didn't seem to have a Margaret on it.

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    Had a quick look but mistranscribed. Image clearly shows 1062 not 1064 and that Richard Kean married a Mary Lawler or a Mary Ann Young


    Edit:"I had found that one, but it didn't seem to have a Margaret on it."
    It wouldn't as there are only 5 persons on there not 6 as should be. That's why I looked for the missing partner.
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    Ahhh, - thanks for pointing that out Kat.

    I will look at it again.

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