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    James Jack Esq. Glasgow

    I'm looking for some help with the above person from someone who would know a bit more about Scottish research than me. My 3x great grandfather (Leslie Rankin) married the Daughter of James Jack in 1848 in Garvagh, County Londonderry, Ireland, she was called Margaret. A newspaper posting recording the marriage states that Margaret was the daughter of James Jack Esquire of Glasgow. On the marriage certificate it states James Jack was a 'steward' and that the daughters address was 'Ballintemple' a townland near Garvagh in Ireland. Important to note that Margaret died in 1867 aged 44, making her birth date somewhere between 1822 and 1823.

    I'm just struggling to locate James Jack, as there are so many people with that name in Scottish census returns. I don't think James moved to Ireland at all because there are no death records for him here.

    Anybody that can add a little clarity to my research would be most welcome.

    Thank you.

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    I think this your Margaret’s baptism on Scotland’s People.

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    These are all the baptisms to James JACK and Ann BOWMAN. Hopefully one of them will have had a post 1855 marriage which would give you more details about the parents.

    Surname
    JACK
    Forename
    JAMES
    Parents/ Other Details
    JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4372 (FR4372)
    Gender
    M
    Date
    20/12/1830
    Parish Number
    644/1
    Ref
    330 64
    Parish
    Glasgow

    Surname
    JACK
    Forename
    THOMAS
    Parents/ Other Details
    JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR3881 (FR3881)
    Gender
    M
    Date
    23/08/1824
    Parish Number
    644/1
    Ref
    310 435
    Parish
    Glasgow

    Surname
    JACK
    Forename
    ANN
    Parents/ Other Details
    JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4033 (FR4033)
    Gender
    F
    Date
    02/07/1826
    Parish Number
    644/1
    Ref
    320 159
    Parish
    Glasgow

    Surname
    JACK
    Forename
    ELIZABETH
    Parents/ Other Details
    JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4177 (FR4177)
    Gender
    F
    Date
    20/08/1828
    Parish Number
    644/1
    Ref
    320 445
    Parish
    Glasgow

    Surname
    JACK
    Forename
    JANET
    Parents/ Other Details
    JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR5100 (FR5100)
    Gender
    F
    Date
    21/12/1837
    Parish Number
    644/1
    Ref
    350 137
    Parish

    Surname
    JACK
    Forename
    JEAN
    Parents/ Other Details
    JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4622 (FR4622)
    Gender
    F
    Date
    16/08/1833
    Parish Number
    644/1
    Ref
    330 562
    Parish
    Glasgow

    Surname
    JACK
    Forename
    MARGARET
    Parents/ Other Details
    JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR3626 (FR3626)
    Gender
    F
    Date
    14/09/1821
    Parish Number
    644/1
    Ref
    300 240
    Parish
    Glasgow

    Surname
    JACK
    Forename
    MARION
    Parents/ Other Details
    JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR2575 (FR2575)
    Gender
    F
    Date
    21/10/1819
    Parish Number
    644/1
    Ref
    220 255
    Parish
    Glasgow

    Surname
    JACK
    Forename
    CECILIA
    Parents/ Other Details
    JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4858 (FR4858)
    Gender
    F
    Date
    15/10/1835
    Parish Number
    644/1
    Ref
    340 245
    Parish
    Glasgow

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    This is James and Ann’s marriage entry. Barony is a parish in Glasgow.

    Surname JACK
    Forename JAMES
    Spouse Name ANN BOWMAN /FR1972 (FR1972)
    Date 29/01/1819
    Parish Number 622/ Ref 70 474
    Parish Barony

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    From 1841 census transcription on ancestry. Note Cecilia is given as Cecily. I used her name to search as it’s not that common. Not sure why the address shown on James snr’s entry is Cellar. Cecily’s says Robertson Lane. You would need to purchase the original from SP site to be sure what that says.

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    Last edited by GallowayLass; 03-06-19 at 12:35.

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    There are no entries for that family in 1851 Scotland census. As Margaret married in 1848 in Ireland, I have a sneaking suspicion that the whole family moved over there sometime 1841-1848.

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    I might be wrong about that. Here’s a death for an Ann JACK or BOWMAN in another parish in Glasgow City. You can add a woman's maiden surname in SP death searches. Also bear in mind that ages in 1841 can be 5-10 years out.

    Surname
    JACK
    Forename
    ANN
    Age at death
    76
    Mother's Maiden Name
    CAMPBELL
    Year
    1863
    Ref
    644/9 934
    RD Name
    Tradeston

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    Assuming that death is your Ann this is her baptism.

    Surname
    BOWMAN
    Forename
    ANN
    Parents/ Other Details
    WILLIAM BOWMAN/MARY CAMPBELL FR1728 (FR1728)
    Gender
    F
    Date
    19/11/1795
    Parish Number
    644/1
    Ref
    190 251
    Parish
    Glasgow

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    You see I don't think that's the correct James Jack because on his marriage cert, it says he was a carter. The profession of carter is I believe someone who transports goods by horse drawn cart ? Unless its possible someone with that occupation can have the title of 'esquire' ?

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    what about this 1851 census
    Record Transcription:
    1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
    44, Maxwell Street, St Enochs,Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

    James Jack Head Married Male 65 1786 Carter Lanarkshire, Scotland
    Ann Jack Wife Married Female 51 1800 Housekeeper Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
    Last edited by Katarzyna; 03-06-19 at 13:32.
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