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    Thomas, John or the same man?

    Hi!

    Elizabeth Lovelock's husband is Thomas Faithfull (according to Ancestry hint) yet when I say yes and start looking at hint records all the marriages come up with John Faithfull! I have found a death record for a Elizabeth Faithfull (b.1658, Aldbourne d. 1723, Kintbury) and that shows her husband is Thomas. Cannot find a marriage for an Elizabeth Lovelock to a Thomas Faithfull. Also cannot find a birth/christening for either a Thomas nor a John Faithfull. Does anyone have any ideas of where I should look now to try and work out what's going on?

    Thanks

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    the hints are probably due to other peoples trees, have you checked the other trees to see where they get their info from?
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    Where have you looked?? On any sites other than Ancestry???
    My avatar is my brother, taken about a week before he died in 1990.
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    Is this the burial you found??? This is from FMP

    Berkshire Burial Index

    First name(s) Elisabeth
    Last name Faithfull
    Age 65
    Birth year 1658
    Residence Tidcombe
    Death year 1723
    Burial year 1723
    Burial date 20 Oct 1723
    Church St Mary
    Place Kintbury
    Relationship Wife
    Relation Thomas Faithfull Snr
    Notes date of death 17th Oct
    County Berkshire
    Country England
    Record set Berkshire Burial Index
    Category Life Events (BDMs)
    My avatar is my brother, taken about a week before he died in 1990.
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    I found a Thomas Faithful married to an Eli*abeth Schrab in 1718, but in Hampshire ............

    It made me think that perhaps Eli*beth Lovelock married at least once before Thomas.

    You have remembered to look for possible different spellings, haven't you?
    Last edited by Sylvia C; 15-05-19 at 00:48.
    My avatar is my brother, taken about a week before he died in 1990.
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    If all you are looking at is a transcription on Ancestry, which will originally have come from Familysearch, then I wouldn't be surprised if its an error in transcription. Some of these old registers are very difficult to read.

    Having said that, looking at the Familysearch catalog only the Bishops Transcript has been filmed for that period (and can only be viewed at a FHS centre), so it could equally be a copying error from the PR to the BT.

    The originals are held at Berkshire Records Office so you could contact them for a quote & at the same time confirm whether it's the BTs or the PR. Prices start at £10 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbcarolyn View Post
    the hints are probably due to other peoples trees, have you checked the other trees to see where they get their info from?
    How do you see where they get the info. from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia C View Post
    Where have you looked?? On any sites other than Ancestry???
    I only have an Ancestry sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia C View Post
    Is this the burial you found??? This is from FMP

    Berkshire Burial Index

    First name(s) Elisabeth
    Last name Faithfull
    Age 65
    Birth year 1658
    Residence Tidcombe
    Death year 1723
    Burial year 1723
    Burial date 20 Oct 1723
    Church St Mary
    Place Kintbury
    Relationship Wife
    Relation Thomas Faithfull Snr
    Notes date of death 17th Oct
    County Berkshire
    Country England
    Record set Berkshire Burial Index
    Category Life Events (BDMs)
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvia C View Post
    I found a Thomas Faithful married to an Eli*abeth Schrab in 1718, but in Hampshire ............

    It made me think that perhaps Eli*beth Lovelock married at least once before Thomas.

    You have remembered to look for possible different spellings, haven't you?
    Yes I've tried other spellings - I'll look for previous marriages as hadn't thought about that!

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