I'm sure we all would love to help Val. We know from the last 12 years or so what a complicated tree you have. Just give us a good solid starting point with this one
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I have found 19 Val : mmn all Turner
KNIGHT, - GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in SAINT MARY MAGDALEN BERMONDSEY SURREY Volume 01D Page 88
KNIGHT, LUCY GEORGINA GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter SAINT MARY MAGDALEN BERMONDSEY SURREY Vol 01D P 106
KNIGHT, GEORGE RICHARD GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 218
KNIGHT, ELIZA GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 224
KNIGHT, FANNY GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 241
KNIGHT, JANE GRO Reference: 1874 S Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D
KNIGHT, FREDERICK GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 46
KNIGHT, EMMA GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 33
KNIGHT, HARRY GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 44
KNIGHT, SELINA GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 30
KNIGHT, JANET GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 44
KNIGHT, ANTOINETTE GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 951
KNIGHT, JIM GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 947
KNIGHT, ARTHUR GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 964
KNIGHT, CLARA GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 944
KNIGHT, ERNEST GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 883
KNIGHT, GEORGE GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 883
KNIGHT, MARY ANN GRO Reference: 1888 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 877
KNIGHT, JOHN GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 832Kat
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1891 census mistranscribed using family above- I see you already have already added alternate info for Knight.
George Gard 52
Elizabeth Gard 46
Marry Gard 13
Annette Gard 8
John Gard 1
Clara Gard 5
Frederick Gard 18
Jannette Gard 7
There is a birth reg for Antoinette for 1882
However in 1901 there is a Harriet b 1882 and no Antoinette.
Also there isn't a Harriet Birth Reg. Possibly they are one and the same.
I cannot see Antoinette on 1901 anywhere else but she marries 1903
Name: Antoinette Kought
[Antoinette Knight]
Marriage Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1882
Marriage Date: 4 Oct 1903
Marriage Place: St Barnabas, Rotherhithe, Southwark, England
Father: George Kought
Spouse: Daniel Ogrady
Register Type: Parish Register
These 9 are not on any census:
unknown Knight b 1867, George, Jane, Emma, Selina, Arthur, Ernest, another George 1887, and Mary Ann.
Will look for others later.Kat
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Jim died April 1885 • Camberwell, London age 2
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This could be the unnamed child's death - right age and place by 1870
KNIGHT, MARGARET 3
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 190
As far as I can see we have 1 birth and death to make the 1911 births and deaths correctLast edited by Katarzyna; 18-03-19, 11:29.Kat
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Would the unknown Knight have died? soon after birth? Had a quick check but couldn't see anything gro.
I have recently looked for someone in our family who wasn't named, we couldn't find on GRO death, but have grave etc and found them on deceased on line.Carolyn
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hi and thanks for looking , and I feel awful but that is the family that isn't mine , I have spent hours deleting them.
Mine is
George Daniel Knight born 1840 Bermondsey, dont know when he died but could be in 1890 Southwark?
Elizabeth Mason born 1843 West London, dont know when she died
They married in 1863 St Olaves Southwark
dont have them in any census after marriage ?
Children that I have found
Mary Louisa Elizabeth Knight born 1866 Bermondsey in 1871 is with Elizabeth's Sister Sarah A Mason
After that dont know
William John Knight 1868-1868 Born and died Bermondsey
Thomas George Knight 1870-1871 Born and died St Olave Southwark
Sarah Louisa Knight 1872 St Olave Southwark
George Frederick Knight 1875 St Olave Southwark
Louisa Knight 1877-1880 Born and died St Olave Southwark
Emily Knight 1879-1880 Born and died St Olave Southwark
Think this may be Sarah Louisa and George in 1881
Thomas George was starved to death and died in Aug 1871, they were tried for Manslaughter , would have thought they would be in the census in 1871
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is the Mothers name Mason or Turner?
Which census are you missing? I will probably be playing on computer at library tomorrow afternoon whilst husband has dialysis, I wait for him as we have to travel a reasonable distance.Carolyn
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sorry - ignore my post missed your last one!Carolyn
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there doesn't seem t be anymore on the GRO for that maiden name, a few north of the river Shoreditch, Pancras and Holborn.
So just the 1911 census though? or is that the Elizabeth Turner?Last edited by cbcarolyn; 18-03-19, 14:31.Carolyn
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Have you seen these school records - not sure if they are your Sarah. One I think says Sarah or Rose - which may mean they are not yours, but she may have been called rose as a nickname. Another says mother in the house, and this one says deserted.
Carolyn
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Originally posted by Val wish Id never started View Posthi and thanks for looking , and I feel awful but that is the family that isn't mine , I have spent hours deleting them.Kat
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Originally posted by Val wish Id never started View Posthi and thanks no hadn't seen that record will look into it, and I cannot find this couple on any census after the marriage in 1863, or their deaths ,was thinking they may have been held awaiting trial? but where.Carolyn
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Carolyn
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Mary Louisa
this could be her:
marriage
1881 census
Carolyn
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I kind of felt that his occupation was 'changeable' having read the newspaper article, but not sure how skilled you need to be a lighterman. Will investigate.
The other family are worth seeing on here as we know they are wrong, but they are the ones in the 1911 census? so that is wrong too?
Elizabeth's father was a coffee house keeper, is that the right one? so thought it was fitting that his grand daughter could be working for one.Carolyn
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the 1911 census is right for the wrong family George Richard Knight and Elizabeth Turner.
I really am so annoyed with myself for assuming when his daughters married they said Father George Richard, I just assumed they did not know it was George Daniel?? goes to show I must not assume anything.
Yes Elizabeth's Father was John Mason a Coffee House Keeper, he died in an asylum in 1872.
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so what records are you missing?
So number of children are a red herring, and maybe have them all, as no 1911 census, judging by the newspaper article maybe she never made itCarolyn
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