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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View Postunless I have gone wrong and found wrong Henry, I can't find the census for this wife, I have Jane for Henry Carter, and on GRO I have MALPAS as Mother name. I can see a newspaper article for henry carter and death of his wife age 41 in June 61, so you might want to check this out.
so she must be his new wife, I think I have him on his own in 1871.
Marriages Jun 1871
Carter Henry Hereford 6a 904
FISHER Frances Sarah Hereford 6a 904
Edit: Looks like she was married before:
Name: Frances Sarah Fisher
[Frances Sarah Hamp]
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 13 Jun 1871
Marriage Place: Saint Nicholas,Hereford,Hereford,England
Father: Francis Hamp
Spouse: Henry Carter
FHL Film Number: 1041600Last edited by Katarzyna; 07-03-19, 12:09.Kat
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1971 with Jane and these two children.
CARTER, JESSIE JANE mmn MUSGROVE
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in PRESTEIGN Volume 11B Page 168
CARTER, HENRY JOHN MUSGROVE
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in PRESTEIGN Volume 11B Page 179
There is a marriage but in Newark????
Marriages Sep 1857
Carter Henry Newark 7b 407
Musgrove Jane Newark 7b 407Kat
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Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post1971 with Jane and these two children. This should read 1871 - Jane's two children with Henry as widower. Jane had died by then
CARTER, JESSIE JANE mmn MUSGROVE
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in PRESTEIGN Volume 11B Page 168
CARTER, HENRY JOHN MUSGROVE
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in PRESTEIGN Volume 11B Page 179
There is a marriage but in Newark????
Marriages Sep 1857
Carter Henry Newark 7b 407
Musgrove Jane Newark 7b 407
Deaths Jun 1861
Carter Jane age 41 Presteigne 11b 128Last edited by Katarzyna; 07-03-19, 13:58.Kat
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Originally posted by Katarzyna View PostIt looks like Jane died in childbirth.
Deaths Jun 1861
Carter Jane age 41 Presteigne 11b 128
Just realised he is widowed (had misread Letitia as his wife - but is his mother on 1851 census, so think GRO records for MALPAS might be right? - as that is in Ludlow.
1851 census I have:
Name: Letitia Carter
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Henry Carter
Gender: Female
Where born: Caynham, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Pembridge
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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Town: Pembridge
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Presteigne
Sub-registration district: Brilley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 2492
Folio: 385
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Carter 38
Letitia Carter 73
Henry Carter 13
Letitia Carter 11Carolyn
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Originally posted by Chrissie Smiff View PostThis page mentions Dunstable Straw and has pictures of Bonnets through the ages -
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...201819&f=falseLast edited by cbcarolyn; 07-03-19, 18:35.Carolyn
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Originally posted by Katarzyna View PostHenry is on 1841 with Sarah - mother of Letitia.
Death
CARTER, SARAH 49
GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in LUDLOW Volume 18 Page 59
also a brother Edward and an Eleanor - but think she maybe a relationLast edited by cbcarolyn; 07-03-19, 18:38.Carolyn
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CARTER, LETITIA mmn MALPAS
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in LUDLOW Volume 18 Page 63
Edward Henry Carter
Gender: Male
Christening Date (Original): 12 NOV 1837
Christening Place: CAYNHAM,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Henry Carter
Mother's Name: Sarah
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Letitia Carter
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 03 Sep 1839
Christening Date (Original): 03 SEP 1839
Christening Place: CAYNHAM,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Henry Carter
Mother's Name: SarahLast edited by Katarzyna; 07-03-19, 19:10.Kat
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Originally posted by Katarzyna View PostCARTER, LETITIA mmn MALPAS
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in LUDLOW Volume 18 Page 63Carolyn
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1857 marriage was in the newspaper, Henry Carter of Milton House, Herefordshire
On the Nottingham index St George 7 Jul 1857 North CliftonLast edited by Elaine; 07-03-19, 19:14.Elaine
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Death was 1861Attached FilesLast edited by Elaine; 07-03-19, 19:20.Elaine
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Originally posted by cbcarolyn View PostYes, and assume it to be Sarah Malpas. I can find a rather strange marriage in Westminster, the image of the pallots marriage seems to say Salop - can't read the rest as out of focus.
malpas.JPGLast edited by Katarzyna; 07-03-19, 19:49.Kat
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Originally posted by Elaine View Post1857 marriage was in the newspaper, Henry Carter of Milton House, Herefordshire
On the Nottingham index St George 7 Jul 1857 North CliftonKat
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Checked an advert placed regards the death of Ann Brewer and there is a will....leaving various to her sister Frances Dixon and her 3 daughters, Fanny, Mary Ann and Elizabeth, also David Feltham, Elizabeth Bennett and it names brothers.
England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858
Name: Ann Brewer
Probate Date: 7 Feb 1820
Residence: Pentridge, Dorset, EnglandElaine
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It goes on to name Frances's children again Fanny Dixon, Mary Ann Feltham, Elizabeth Bennett and there is a son John Dixon.
I can't quite make out the brothers surname, but there are brothers John and DavidElaine
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Originally posted by Katarzyna View PostThis image is OK and yes strange 1836 Westminster. Like the marriage to Jane in Newark???
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Originally posted by Elaine View PostChecked an advert placed regards the death of Ann Brewer and there is a will....leaving various to her sister Frances Dixon and her 3 daughters, Fanny, Mary Ann and Elizabeth, also David Feltham, Elizabeth Bennett and it names brothers.
England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858
Name: Ann Brewer
Probate Date: 7 Feb 1820
Residence: Pentridge, Dorset, EnglandCarolyn
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Death in the paper for Ann Brewer
Salisbury and Winchester Journal 22 November 1819Elaine
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