1911 census - Any idea what this may mean?

[Katarzyna]

This is Mary age 8 living with parents - any idea what parentage might mean here? Her mmn is the same for all 4 children.

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[ozgirl]

I think it refers to the British Subject bit - was she born abroad?

[Lin Fisher]

Has it been added afterwards about the person above as it looks as if that says Brit subject.

[Katarzyna]

Yes, you could be right but for what reason I don't know. All were born Essex mmn Oliver. First one b West Ham, the others Orsett.

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[Lin Fisher]

Looks like they were trying too hard to fill the form in correctly and overdid it!!!

[Katarzyna]

I have another query re this family if anyone can help.

William Adams married Sarah Clark in 1902 (says married 12 years but probably covering up for children born before that date)
Marriages Dec 1902
Adams William W. Ham 4a 348
Clark Sarah W. Ham 4a 348
However I cannot find a previous marriage for an Oliver and Clark/e.
I have traced Sarah Oliver back to 1871 at Hatfield Peverill, Essex

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7619&h=4054494&tid=4042845&pid=-1658520247&usePUB=true&_phsrc=aWs1505&_phstart=successSource

William and Sarah are together on 1901 census with Frances Louisa (Louisa on 1911)

On 1911 Sarah states 5 children, 4 living, 1 died. Cannot find that child as Adams mmn Oliver. I wondered if this was maybe a child from a previous marriage.
All the other 4 children were registered with MMN Oliver.

[Anne in Carlisle]

About the parentage bit. I have often seen this, the householder copying the notes in the column above. In this case I think he meant to bracket them all together.
Anne

[Katarzyna]

Yes Anne I think that explains it, thank you.
If anyone can work out the marriage though I'd be grateful.

[vera2013]

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1623/31281_a100298-00036?pid=1377112&treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=rmb5772&_phstart=successSource

Did they marry twice I wonder. This possibly relates to the 12 year old marriage on the 1911.

I haven't had a thorough look for a Sarah Oliver to a Clarke but the above has parents and witness that link to William Adams and Sarah Oliver

Vera

[Katarzyna]

Thanks Vera. I think the marriage you found was correct and the Adams/Clark one is not mine. Years ago I found that marriage and as William was a great uncle I never got the mc. However it is only now with mmn on GRO that I have been gradually checking through all my births firstly on the direct lines but now searching all the twigs. mmn Oliver came as a surprise!
Their ages are correct also the fathers and their occupations. William's father George, my 2nd gt grandfather, was not deceased though until 2 years later.
Witness Louise was probably William's sister. William and Sarah's daughter Frances Louisa is mentioned in her will.
What sort of occupation was a "fixer" when it's at home???

[vera2013]

I think it's a boot/shoe repairer. I have been googling that one.

Did you find Florence Maud who sadly died?

Vera

[Katarzyna]

Morning Vera, Yes, I found Florence. Once I knew they'd married in Camberwell that is