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    Help finding information on Jane Langstroth b 1809 Ireby, Westmorland

    I'd be grateful if anyone can help me find information about the parentage and birth of my 3rd great grandmother, Jane (or Jeannie) Langstroth (possibly also Longstreth, Longstroph). Place of birth according to 1851 and 1861 census was Ireby. Jane married Moses Robinson (b1802, wennington) in 1831 in Orton, Westmorland aged 22. Moses and Jane had 7 daughters and one son. The family lived in Leck, Lancashire until sometime between 1852 and 1861, when they moved to Walmersley cum Shuttleworth, where the family found work in the cotton mills.

    Moses came from a well to do farming family, but was only ever a farm labourer himself, and I wonder if his family disowned him for some reason. Any help very gratefully received!

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    [QUOTE=Kim Lester Whittle;2599444]I'd be grateful if anyone can help me find information about the parentage and birth of my 3rd great grandmother, Jane (or Jeannie) Langstroth (possibly also Longstreth, Longstroph). Place of birth according to 1851 and 1861 census was Ireby. Jane married Moses Robinson (b1802, wennington) in 1831 in Orton, Westmorland aged 22. Moses and Jane had 7 daughters and one son. The family lived in Leck, Lancashire until sometime between 1852 and 1861, when they moved to Walmersley cum Shuttleworth, where the family found work in the cotton mills.

    Moses came from a well to do farming family, but was only ever a farm labourer himself, and I wonder if his family disowned him for some reason. Any help very gratefully received![/QUOTE]

    Most farmers were tenants, renting from a local large landowner rather than owners of their own farm. A tenancy was often for 3 or 5 "lifetimes" (depending on the county) and usually passed from father to eldest son. The farm wasn't usually profitable enough to support several families and so younger sons tried to perhaps rent their own farm, or had to resort to labouring for another farmer. Farming underwent lots of changes in the Victorian era and many farm labourers swapped country life for industrial work in the towns and cities, where the pay was higher. I think your relative may have changed occupations due to economic reasons, rather than having been disowned.

    Jay
    Janet in Yorkshire



    Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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    I think you'll find Ireby was in Cumberland? I can pay a visit to the Carlisle Archives for you if you like. There's not very much on line for Cumberland parishes.
    Anne
    Edit ..... Sorry I just noticed there is an Ireby in Lancashire near Leck. Strange they married in Orton then?
    Last edited by Anne in Carlisle; 10-03-17 at 23:49.

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    FreeReg has a baptism of Jenny Langstroth in Thornton in Lonsdale (West Yorkshire) in May 1808, born 8th April 1808. Parents Christopher and Margaret. Christopher was a linen weaver. Place of abode Ireby

    https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_re...25a69eb39684ee
    Jackie

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    There is a Christopher Langstroth in Tatham, Lancashire in 1841 with wife Margaret. Also living with them, amongst others, is Jenny Robinson and 2 children

    http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/89...&usePUBJs=true
    Jackie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Owl View Post
    There is a Christopher Langstroth in Tatham, Lancashire in 1841 with wife Margaret. Also living with them, amongst others, is Jenny Robinson and 2 children

    http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/89...&usePUBJs=true
    Hi Jackie and Kim,
    I'd found that one on FMP. The two children are Miriham (sic) aged 8 and Nathan aged 1.
    From Gro indexes for Nathan:

    ROBINSON, NATHAN Mother's maiden name: LANGSTRETH
    GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in KENDAL UNION

    Miriam predates civil registration but LAN-OPC has this baptism:
    Baptism: 17 Feb 1833 St John the Baptist, Tunstall, Lancashire, England
    Miriam Robinson - Dau of Moses Robinson & Jane
    Abode: Leck
    Occupation: Labourer
    Baptised by: E.Thurtell, P.Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1846, Page 62, Entry 492
    Source: LDS Film 1517648

    Although relationships not recorded on the 1841 census, I think it's a pretty safe bet that Christopher Langstroth is Jane/Jenny's father.

    I think this is him on findagrave - the same Ivah, Tatham detail as 1841. He's the only one who has been transcribed but look at the gravestone photo for more family. https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/f...Rid=176429840&

    Frustratingly, right at the bottom of the gravestone, there is a mention of a daughter Jane who died aged 56 but the year is obscured.

    Jane Langstroth Robinson is buried in Ramsbottom with Moses and was approx 56 when she died in 1864
    https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/f...GRid=170408448
    There are further links for Moses and then for his parents and siblings, plus one child of Moses and Jane. Interestingly, the contributor is says that Moses and Jane are his 3G uncle and aunt, so it may be worth getting in touch if you aren't already.

    Back to Christopher Langstroth - this could be his baptism and marriage banns via LAN-OPC. (Not 100% certain as it's pretty late and I'm heading for bed now, plus there may be more than one Christopher Langstroth knocking about in the area:
    Baptism: 15 Jun 1777 Church of the Good Shepherd, Tatham Fells, Lancashire, England
    Christopher Langstroth - Son of John Langstroth
    Abode: Herdses
    Source: LDS Film 1544766

    Banns: St John the Baptist, Tunstall, Lancashire, England
    Christopher Langstreth - Leck in this Parish
    Margaret King - the Parish of Lancaster
    First Reading: 7 Aug 1803; Read By: Frederick Needham, Vicar
    Second Reading: 14 Aug 1803; Read By: Frederick Needham, Vicar
    Third Reading: 21 Aug 1803; Read By: Frederick Needham, Vicar
    Register: Marriages 1754 - 1812, Page 52, Entry 209
    Source: LDS Film 1517648

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    I think this will would be worth a look if you can get to Lancashire Archives - assuming 1848 was when it was drawn up, not the date of death:
    http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...b-acf45a7d5ec4

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    This might be Jane's sister

    First name(s) Agnes
    Last name Langstroth
    Gender Female
    Birth year 1807
    Birth place -
    Baptism year 1808
    Baptism date 28 Feb 1808
    Place Tatham Fells
    County Lancashire
    Country England
    Father's first name(s) Christopher
    Father's last name Langstroth
    Mother's first name(s) Peggy



    Freereg has several baptisms for children of Christopher Langstroth and wife Margaret .... baptised in West Riding of Yorkshire ...............


    the area is the one where some of OH's ancestors were baptised etc, and they did the same as this Langstroth family did ............ move backwards and forwards across the borders of Yorkshire, Lancashire and Westmorland. it's that funny little area in the Kendal / Gargrave area where all 3 counties meet.
    My parents at my brother's wedding, March 1952

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    This is strange ......... from ancestry

    Lancashire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936

    Name: Margaret King
    Gender: Female
    Event Type: Marriage
    Event Date: 1 Mar 1803
    Parish: Tunstall, Lancashire, England
    Spouse: Christopher Langstrett
    Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

    from image:-
    date March 17
    Banns were published on Sunday 7, 14 and 21 of August


    then .........

    http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/25...s=true&bm=true


    Name: Margaret King
    Gender: Female
    Event Type: Marriage
    Event Date: 28 Aug 1803
    Parish: Lancaster, St Mary, Lancashire, England
    Spouse: Christopher Longstreeth
    Register Type: Parish Register

    from the image:-

    Christopher of the Parish of Tunstall (and a word I cannot read)
    Margaret of Scotforth in this Parish, Spinster

    Witnesses:- John Longstoth's mark (sic) and Margaret Holand (??)
    My parents at my brother's wedding, March 1952

    Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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    Thank you so much - and I think that you are spot on with this. I guess Moses was just much less lucky than his brothers.

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