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Thread: Henry Goldsmith Capp / Clark b:1826/27 Tuddenham Suffolk and parents

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    Question Henry Goldsmith Capp / Clark b:1826/27 Tuddenham Suffolk and parents

    I have beern trying to find out where my 2 x G Grandfather Henry was Born/Baptised/Christened but am struggling to find the exact informationrequired, as I would like, if possible obtain a baptism/birth certificate for him. Am I right in thinking that this is not available online? I have found the relevant information on Ancestry but there is no digitised copy of these documents.
    I have also found a possible marriage for his parents Henry (or Henery) Goldsmith and Elizabeth Capp/Copp or Clarke - Is it right that sometimes the mans' name wasn't used as a surname after marriage for some reason?
    Any insight into the above would be gratefully received.


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    Hello and welcome to the forum.

    Civil registration of births, marriages and deaths was only introduced in 1837, so you won't be able to get a birth certificate for your ancestor. You will need to consult parish register entries for a baptism record.
    Which area of the country? The registers of some churches have been digitised and are online.

    Jay
    Last edited by Janet in Yorkshire; 13-11-14 at 17:41.
    Janet in Yorkshire



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    https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSKC-NVK

    This is his baptism. It seems as if his mother wasn't married.

    She had another son also baptised at Tuddenham.

    https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7BN-2TY

    Moggie

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    Hello Jay

    Many many thanks for the reply to my post the information provided was very welcome. Henry Goldsmith Clark was born in Suffolk. Any clues as to who may have these registers online I've tried Ancestry but havn't had any luck. At least now I know a birth certificate is out of the picture!

    Julie

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    Hello Moggie a BIG thank you for the reply to my post. Any information is of great help - I'm determined to get to the bottom of this Goldsmith/Clark business!

    Julie

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    You could request a copy of the images from the baptismal registers from Family Search via Photoduplication

    https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/...ation_Services

    STG
    Always looking for Goodwins in Berkshire.

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    I agree with Moggie - based on the information in the familysearch transcript, it seems his mother was unmarried at the times of these births.

    Do you have a copy of the marriage certificate for your ancestor Henry? If so, what name is recorded for his father?

    Jay
    Janet in Yorkshire



    Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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    Did he marry Ann Nunn in Dec 1852 Mildenhall ref 4a 979? I thought this may be him in 1861? -
    http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/87...l=ReturnRecord
    Chrissie passed away in January 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissie Smiff View Post
    Did he marry Ann Nunn in Dec 1852 Mildenhall ref 4a 979? I thought this may be him in 1861? -
    http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/87...l=ReturnRecord
    And I think this COULD be him & brother William in 1841
    http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/89...l=ReturnRecord

    and the same family in 1851
    http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/88...l=ReturnRecord

    Using the name Goldsmith
    Mrs Thomas Mace was Elizabeth Cap Doe before her marriage - was she an elder sister of the 2 boys????

    In your opening post you asked about men and their names post marriage:
    I have found that sometimes illegitimate children were brought up using and referred to with the surname of the relatives or step-father etc who cared for them. At marriage, sometimes they began to use birth/baptismal surname instead.

    Were you thinking along these lines when you asked the question? (Probably it's me chasing after red herrings!)

    Jay
    Last edited by Janet in Yorkshire; 16-11-14 at 14:16.
    Janet in Yorkshire



    Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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    Scrap that!
    Elizabeth Cap Doe was bp 1823, d/o John & Elizabeth Doe. (familysearch)

    A John Doe mar an Elizabeth Clark in Nov 1813 (familysearch)
    A John Doe mar Eliz Capp in April 1816 - I suspect this couple were the parents of Elizabeth Cap(p) Doe. (familysearch)
    There were also a Henry Thomas (bp 1830) & William (bp 1835) sons of John & Thomas Doe. (familysearch)
    That would explain the 1851 census relationships of Elizabeth Mace & Henry & Thomas, but not the GOLDSMITH connection.
    *retires from thread with a headache*

    Jay
    Last edited by Janet in Yorkshire; 16-11-14 at 14:43.
    Janet in Yorkshire



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