Ellen consistently gives her birthplace as Walsall, Staffordshire - all the other children are Birmingham. I therefore believe the 1861 and 1871 censuses for the rest of the Gargan family are correct. It is a shame that none of the births were registered and it doesn't look like they were baptised either. As you do not have the mother's maiden name you will never be sure of finding the correct marriage for John and Mary. I have searched each child without surname on Ancestry , Family Search and Find My Past and there is absolutely no sign of them. It is highly unlikely that Gargan has been mistranscribed so badly that we can't find births for any of the 5 children.
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Originally posted by richaj View PostNow received 2 death certs. Still not sure if mine. John Garligan 24 November 1978 age 48 Address 3 New Summer Street Birmingham. Informant looks like H Hawkes Coroner 29th November 1878. Hope to be able to get a copy of coroners report if there is one. Cannot find anything on the address???
Mary Gargan 15 July 1889 Workhouse Infirmary, Western Road ???. Informant looks like H Gibbon Matron. If this is my Gt Gt Gran she died in a workhouse like one of her Daughters Fanny. So sad. Still not sure if I am right track though. Not sure what to do now. Help please !!!!!
Usually for a woman it gives "wife/widow of ...." and her husband's occupation.Kat
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Do you think this fits kat?
Bartholomew Caragan c 1857 death reg North Birmingham 1930 6d/430Elaine
Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills
http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com
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Last edited by Elaine; 28-07-14, 19:41.Elaine
Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills
http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com
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definitely Gargin on the image.
Name: John Gargin
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Registration Year: 1885
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Birmingham 6d 89Kat
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Originally posted by Elaine View PostOh goody...and apologies lost track a bit, have we had this one? John Gargia, pre wedding to Bartholomew and Mary Ann
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/49...l=ReturnRecord
Margaret
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I cannot thank you all enough for your help. This has been driving me nuts for a few years. The spelling of the surname has really made it difficult. I am now hoping that there is a coroners report for John in the hope, that it might give me a clue. I am also going to compile a list of all the addresses that I have for them. When I go to Birmingham I shall try and look them up but I am now beginning to think that I will never find out where in Ireland the family came from. If I do find anything, I will let you know. If you ever need any manuel look ups in Leeds or near by I am happy to do this for you.
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