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    Quote Originally Posted by lennon2011 View Post
    Used your suggestion and there's only 1 J Thomas DLI Casualty that has the matching Grave number to the one I was given. There's 1 for Lincolnshire but he's not a Private and he has an extra name.
    Sarah - sorry, it does appear to be to be the same person! I was thinking with different regiments and different reg.nos., that they were probably two different people!

    If you check the medal card on Ancestry you will see that Joseph Thomas was initially in the Durham Light Infantry, regimental no. 16867 - and then in the Lincolnshire Regiment, regimental no. 26688

    http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/12...l=ReturnRecord
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    I have an example of one with 4 different corps and 4 different numbers:

    https://livesofthefirstworldwar.org/lifestory/2906152

    [Percy D Manning in case the link won't work!!]
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    Men being moved between regiments to fill gaps, especially after heavy casualties, was something that regularly happened. I have just been looking at one man who was one of 370 men who went from the Lincolnshire to the Kings Own Royal Lancasters in October 1916. In such cases, men were issued with a new number, which should be reflected on their service record/medal roll index card.
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    I E-mailed them about the 5 people, 2 with completely different names and different regiments, and the answer received was that it is possible for more than one person to have he same number, even in the same Regiment - that is a new one on me!

    I think it is possible that a number was changed if you changed Regiment but I have no idea when that stopped - certainly, in this day and age (which, admittedly, is 100 years later) you enter the army with a number and it doesn't matter where you go, your number will remain the same. I was also told these numbers were only designated in 1920 for pension purposes - my chap had his card from 1914, so that cannot be true and as far as I am aware he left the army in 1920 and did not have a pension. Don't know how he got the number in 1914 if they only started in 1920 ..................is someone trying to fob me off I wonder! I agree with you that this website needed more thought and testing before it went "live" but in fact it was beta until only a few days ago.

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    Both my Tompkins brothers who joined up with Percy stayed in the Essex Yeomanry, but both had two numbers as did the fourth in their group, Harry Eve. None of them stayed in after the war.
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    It seems to me such a shame that this WWI Website has been, or appears to have been, put together with not enough care (and I am not blaming any one organisation). It would, of course, have been better if it had been started years ago not suddenly thought of at the brink of the centenary BUT a) better late than never and b) couldn't have started it successfully much earlier because older people in particular, who are most likely to have memories of relatives (or stories) who took part in WWI were not computerised and research websites were not as well developed.

    I do hope (and I obviously won't be around to see it) that the organisation of the centenary for WW2 is organised well in advance and "ready to go" at the time it should be. I suspect the Webmasters who took this WWI project on may be suffering a few regrets at the moment - I am sure it will sort itself out in the fullness of time but I do hope the lessons learned will be carried on for any WW2 commemoration.

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    I reckon they've done what they intended - basically uploaded the people with medal cards which means that even if nobody adds to their page at least they are there. Must have been a massive transcription effort for them. Then there are four years to carry on uploading other sets and adding people who have fallen through the cracks.
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    http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/ro...edNames?Search

    Just found this site and hope it might be of use to someone.

    Lists the people who died in WW1 and commemorated on a Nottingham War Memorial either in a church, work place or club.

    Found 4 of mine and only knew about where one was commemorated before.

    Good Luck
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    Searching Lowe, Everitt, Hurt and Dunns in Nottingham

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    Unfortunately men had different numbers at different times whilst serving. Originally regiments gave their men individual numbers but it was then discovered during WW1 that there were several men with the same number which made indentity difficult and caused logistical problems. Eventually in 1920 a number was given to each soldier which was to be his own unique number wherever he went either a different regiment or postings etc. There is interesting information here. http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/?s=soldiers+renumbering
    and here http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/?s=soldier+numbers

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by lennon2011 View Post
    So I had another look at Joseph and I've realized something, they've got him down in 2 Regiments:



    • Service: British Army
    • Corps/Regiment: Durham Light Infantry
    • Rank: Private
    • Service No.: 16867



    • Service: British Army
    • Corps/Regiment: Lincolnshire Regiment
    • Rank: Private
    • Service No.: 26688



    Surely it's got to be a mistake though? The small amount of online work I've found shows the DLI one only and the grave that was sent to me also has the DLI logo on it.

    Or is this a different Joe?
    I've checked Joseph Thomas on Forces War Records and can confirm that he is one and the same and did serve in both regiments under those service numbers.

    Durham Light Infantry, 14th (Service) Battalion (Listed as "Wounded" on the Casualty List issued by the War Office from the 29th December 1915).

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