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Thread: Major Frederick George Hill, OBE and Official Assignee

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    Quote Originally Posted by annswabey View Post
    Margaret

    The new "Discovery" search is supposed to simplify searching, but it doesn't!

    Best advice is to read the Research Guide on a particular subject. So the Guide on Officers after 1913 will say something along the lines of what I posted. It's very difficult to explain, in the case of a convoluted search like this one, exactly how to do it!
    Well I certainly haven't found it simple!

    I can't understand why they can't just have an alphabetical index that links you through to the different databases. It seems that the information is all stored in separate 'silos' and there is no interlinking of duplicated information in each 'silo' or even a linking of related databases.

    All I can say is I was hoping you would come along and help on this one as I know you are the 'best in field' on this military stuff

    Margaret

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    They've written some new "basic" Research Guides. Signposts, I think they call them. Fine for "popular". "simple" records like WW1 service records for example but not much use for the more complicated stuff for which often Research Guides aren't always too helpful. Often it's not obvious which series, even, should be searched and records could be in a number of series.
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    Hi Ann, (and everybody else who's replied)

    After your post #5 above I ventured on the National Archives site for WO76. I didn't find FG but did find a couple of records for his elder brother David John Jackson Hill (9 Oct 1873-8 Nov 1938) so that's a result. I think these may only deal with his early career so there may well be more to find. He went on to serve in WW1, was awarded the CMG and DSO and rose to the rank of Colonel.

    I've now seen the later posts on this thread and I'm glad I posted here first for advice. As others have mentioned, I'm not finding the site easy to navigate so it's reassuring to find I'm not the only one!

    It's also good to know you're the best in the business in this field so I'm tremendously grateful for your ongoing help and advice.

    I might as well also mention the 3rd military brother in this family - Robert Montague Hill (12 June 1872-17 Jul 1934). He was mentioned in despatches, rose to the rank of Lt-Colonel in 1914 and was awarded the CBE in 1919.
    Both DJJ and RM Hill have entries in the online Who Was Who.

    I won't be able to come back to this thread now until sometime on Monday so thanks to everybody who's posted replies so far...I'm sure I'll find records for all three brothers now with all the help that's available here.

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    (Co Fermanagh, other Ulster counties and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada) BANNIGAN and FOX (Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland and Portland, Maine, USA) REYNOLDS, McSHEA, PATTERSON and GOAN (Corker and Creevy, Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland) DYER (Belfast and Ballymacarrett) SLEVIN and TIMONEY (Co Fermanagh) BARNETT (Ballagh, Co Tyrone and Strangford, Co Down)

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    There's an officers file for Robert Montague Hill as follows

    WO 339/10222
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    Colonel Robert Montague HILL.

    Royal Garrison Artillery.
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    Yes, WO76 is for pre WW1
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    Quote Originally Posted by annswabey View Post
    To search for Army Officers records for WW1 at the National Archives is fairly complicated! ...
    There's a FG Hill of RGA, rank of Captain, though, in the WO338 index. His "long number" is 20021. Started to look at the Catalogue for this but it's playing up - taking forever to load.
    Hi Ann,
    Just had a frustrating time!
    Using the long number you've given above, I've followed the instructions on TNA website to then find him in WO339. I've followed the instructions to the letter, namely put an * in the keyword field and entered the long number in the former reference box. This then gives 118 results, which I've ploughed through. None are him, although, (just a fluke I think,) there is a Private F Hill of the Devonshire Regiment but he is obviously not the man you found as in your message above.
    The results i got were mainly medal cards with 20021 coming up pretty frequently as part of a regiment number.

    Any ideas why I'm not finding him?
    Thanks,
    Christine
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    (Co Fermanagh, other Ulster counties and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada) BANNIGAN and FOX (Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland and Portland, Maine, USA) REYNOLDS, McSHEA, PATTERSON and GOAN (Corker and Creevy, Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland) DYER (Belfast and Ballymacarrett) SLEVIN and TIMONEY (Co Fermanagh) BARNETT (Ballagh, Co Tyrone and Strangford, Co Down)

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    I had a quick look for him too, last week and didn't find him. His file may not have been retained. They were heavily weeded and sometimes there was just nothing left!
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    I haven't forgotten about this thread! I'm still finding TNA fiendishly difficult but have managed to find some early records of David John Jackson Hill which I still need to digest...will post findings and probably more questions here once I've done so. I downloaded an absolutely massive file yesterday which I'm hoping may contain more, but it's going to takes ages to plough through. I'm hoping to make a start on it later today, but more likely Thursday.
    Christine
    Researching:
    HOEY
    (Co Fermanagh, other Ulster counties and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada) BANNIGAN and FOX (Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland and Portland, Maine, USA) REYNOLDS, McSHEA, PATTERSON and GOAN (Corker and Creevy, Ballyshannon, Co Donegal, Ireland) DYER (Belfast and Ballymacarrett) SLEVIN and TIMONEY (Co Fermanagh) BARNETT (Ballagh, Co Tyrone and Strangford, Co Down)

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