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    Disappeared into thin air?

    Please could you help with my researchregarding the wife of George Rampton, Blacksmith/Farrier who died on the 27thAugust 1842 in Knightsbridge. George was married to Mary Ann Weaver – I haveresearched the marriage but cannot find any documentation or reference to theirmarriage. Mary Ann’s last known whereabouts was in 1842 when she was down onher son William Henry Rampton’s death certificate in December 1842 as theinformant of his death. Which on his death certificate states he died at theRose and Crown Yard Knightsbridge. (Which is the same address as on his fathersdeath certificate a few months earlier). Although on the burial in the parishof St. Margaret, Westminster it states that William Henry Rampton was living inthe Workhouse, buried on the 14th December.
    After her son's death Mary Ann appearsto just disappear. After extensive research I cannot find her anywhere. I havehowever found something rather strange. A marriage record in 1877 at the Parish Church of St. StephenWestminster, Middlesex for a Mary Eliza Ann Rampton aged 28 spinster whosefather is down as George Rampton (deceased) Farrier. She married WilliamHutchings. (coincidentally this is the same church that Mary Ann Rampton’s sonGeorge married in just four years previously). I have traced Mary E A Rampton afterher marriage and I have no problem researching her after 1877 but I have tried to find Mary Eliza Ann Rampton before 1877 buthave drawn a blank. Who is Mary Eliza Ann Rampton?
    I have found a Mary E A Osborne on the1851 Channel Islands Census Record, within the correct birth date, whose mother is Mary Ann Osborne. Is MaryAnn Osborne the Mary Ann Rampton, who was married to George Rampton Blacksmith/Farrier, the one and the same person. Did Mary Ann Rampton have a child after the death of her husband – George Rampton, a possible illigitimate child before she married William Osborne? and gave the child

    William and Mary Ann Rampton had a number of children but I cannot find any birthindex for them, so that I can obtain a birth certificate for any of the children, which would have their mothers maiden name/or previous name on. I cannot find any marriage for William Osborne.

    I have tracked William and Mary Ann Osborne on the 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881 channel island census

    This is quite a complicated query butwould appreciate it if I could get some help in solving this mystery.


    Regards
    Sylvia Gabriella


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    Where were George & Mary Ann in 1841, please, if you have located them?
    Can you tell us what children they had? (Mary Ann may turn up with one of them at a later date.)

    Jay
    Janet in Yorkshire



    Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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    First of all welcome to the Forum.

    The Mary Ann Eliza Rampton age 28 on marriage in 1877 would have been born 1849 so she can't be 'your' George Rampton's daughter if he died in 1842. If she was an illegitimate child of George's wife it is unlikely she would have given exactly his details on her marriage - people have been known to make stuff up in these cases but for it to match exactly with someone who is definitely not her father is a bit odd.

    If you can give us the reference or link to the 1841 where you have George and Mary Ann together that would help us start any searches.

    Margaret

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    Hi
    I've been trying all day to find them in 1841 so I looked on FMP & Bingo!
    They have been transcribed on Ancestry as POMPLER.
    http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=7936093

    Moggie

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    good one Moggie

    Val

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    Quote Originally Posted by maudarby View Post
    Hi
    I've been trying all day to find them in 1841 so I looked on FMP & Bingo!
    They have been transcribed on Ancestry as POMPLER.
    http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=7936093

    Moggie
    Can't make out the occupation on that - seems to be J...... but no other letters. How would that fit in with Farrier?

    Also on that the place of birth for all of them bar the 1 year old George is N.K which signifies not known. I wonder if Mary gave the information and didn't know George senior's place of birth or that of the other 2 children because they are not her's? Odd that she doesn't know where she was born though!

    Margaret
    Last edited by margaretmarch; 21-02-13 at 16:59.

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    Where did you find those two baptisms Val?
    Moggie

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    I took the J to mean Journeyman Margaret. Perhaps he was a Journeyman Blacksmith/Farrier?
    Chrissie

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    on FMP interesting eh ?

    Val

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissie Smiff View Post
    I took the J to mean Journeyman Margaret. Perhaps he was a Journeyman Blacksmith/Farrier?
    Hi
    I thought the same thing Chrissie. A lot of the men have J for occupation some with numbers i.e 250 & 300 although I have no idea what these numbers mean.
    Moggie

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