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    Every second man in my family is called James, it...

    Every second man in my family is called James, it seems. For what it's worth, more than once they have been mistranscribed as Thomas, which is not a name found on this side of my family. Although in...
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    It was possible to bury someone without...

    It was possible to bury someone without registering the death before 1875. One of the reasons the law was tightened up was to try to prevent murders going undetected and another was to prevent fraud,...
  3. As an aside - the church allowed a remarriage...

    As an aside - the church allowed a remarriage where the spouse had been transported for seven years or more. I think permission had to be granted by the Archbishop, but usually was if the abandoned...
  4. Post #13 - the only time a mother's name would...

    Post #13 - the only time a mother's name would not be on a birth certificate would be if the child was a foundling. I can't think of any other reason, so you need that birth certificate.

    As Kat...
  5. His mother's name will definitely be on his birth...

    His mother's name will definitely be on his birth certificate even if his father's name isn't. How sure are you that this is your relative, before you order the certificate?

    OC
  6. Gwyn You must have his mother's name from his...

    Gwyn

    You must have his mother's name from his birth certificate though. What is it please?

    OC
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    Grumpy There are professional researchers and...

    Grumpy

    There are professional researchers and then there are professional researchers! People are just as gullible if a "professional researcher" tells them something as they are when they see it...
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    Possibly the mother left the baby in the...

    Possibly the mother left the baby in the hospital, if it was to be adopted. Or possibly it was adopted because she abandoned it? All sorts of scenarios spring to mind. It does not mean she was still...
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    Is he definitely dead? There is a death in...

    Is he definitely dead?

    There is a death in 1950 for a 79 year old Charles Snozwell. Could that be a mistranscription of 29?

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    Oh, definitely worth a try, you never know what...

    Oh, definitely worth a try, you never know what information a will can give you.


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    Oh duhr! Samuel's will won't necessarily name his...

    Oh duhr! Samuel's will won't necessarily name his niece! Fingers crossed though.

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    JLB Wait till you've seen the will, it will...

    JLB

    Wait till you've seen the will, it will surely name her child. We hope!

    ETA - a friend was in a similar position and we know that the legal widow got the pension, the dependent got...
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    Miss Spooner obviously took him to court for...

    Miss Spooner obviously took him to court for maintenance. Local papers always printed maintenance orders, might be worth a look in the papers.

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    Very small point. Call up didn't start till 1916,...

    Very small point. Call up didn't start till 1916, it was voluntary before that, so if he went before 1916 it was because he wanted to. Not sure if he would get leave to marry so soon after joining up...
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    Teasie - post #32. Did you notice there are two...

    Teasie - post #32. Did you notice there are two other births on the same page with mother's maiden name Spooner? Different surnames though - odd coincidence?

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    I wasn't suggesting the poster construct a tree...

    I wasn't suggesting the poster construct a tree using assumptions, just looking for a place to start sending for certificates. If none of the obvious ones apply (no mother's maiden name) then the...
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    AntonyM Yes, I realise what you are saying,...

    AntonyM

    Yes, I realise what you are saying, but if Miss Spooner went to register her child and the father did not wish his name to be on the certificate then surely that birth would appear in the...
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    Yes, not so easy on the GRO, but I just brought...

    Yes, not so easy on the GRO, but I just brought up a list of all Spooner births and skimmed through to look at the ones with no mmn.

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    Teasie Yes, I wondered about that one as well....

    Teasie

    Yes, I wondered about that one as well. Not familiar with the county - any baptisms on line?

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    Gwyn If you look at the new GRO indexes,...

    Gwyn

    If you look at the new GRO indexes, births are shown with either a maiden name, or a blank for a maiden name. The blank indicates there is only one surname on the certificate which in turn...
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    Gwyn If the birth was registered as...

    Gwyn

    If the birth was registered as illegitimate then there should be no mmn showing. Of course, she may have lied on registration and said she was Mrs Spooner, maiden name Spooner. But yes, they...
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    Where were the banns called, please? OC

    Where were the banns called, please?

    OC
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    Yes, I would think "Mrs" was just a courtesy...

    Yes, I would think "Mrs" was just a courtesy title.

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    Dependent Mrs M Spooner Illegitimate child. ...

    Dependent Mrs M Spooner

    Illegitimate child.

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    Seems very likely! The census details would have...

    Seems very likely! The census details would have been filled in by the enumerator almost certainly and whoever was giving him the information probably didn't feel it necessary to go into minute...
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