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    From the 2 censuses, Samuel was born in Co....

    From the 2 censuses, Samuel was born in Co. Armagh c 1837- 1840. That’s long before the start of statutory birth registration in Ireland (1864). So you won't get a birth certificate for him. They...
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    To save duplicating research, there’s a lot about...

    To save duplicating research, there’s a lot about this Rankin family on this site:

    https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=805251.0
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    As has been said, there are 2 townlands named...

    As has been said, there are 2 townlands named Ballymacombs. Ballymacombs more and Ballymacombs Beg. (More just means big and Beg means small, in gaelic). The 2 townlands are beside each other between...
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    Record Office: Jood, The Mc and O” prefixes in Irish names...

    Jood,

    The Mc and O” prefixes in Irish names are detachable and often appear and disappear as the family chose. They just mean son of and “of” and are not part of the surname proper. Sometimes when...
  5. Thread: Mateer Family

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    The main thing is to double check each piece of...

    The main thing is to double check each piece of information wherever possible. Go back one generation at a time, starting with you or your parents, and use original documents wherever available. Try...
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    No I have no information on Hugh’s parents....

    No I have no information on Hugh’s parents. Probably he was baptised in a church whose records are not on-line. Finding his baptism will probably involve a search in PRONI.

    Here’s a link to Ros...
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    Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church and...

    Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church and thereafter she'd normally attend her husband's. So the McMaster family probably attended Boardmills 1st. (That’s near Saintfield, about 20 miles south...
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    The records you need are probably not on-line. ...

    The records you need are probably not on-line.

    The births, marriages and deaths are all long before the start of civil registration in Ireland (1864, save for non RC marriages which were...
  9. Thread: watt family

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    Why do you believe that Thomas b c 1829’s father...

    Why do you believe that Thomas b c 1829’s father was also named Thomas? Have you checked the 1854 marriage certificate, as teasie suggested? (I think not). If you do, you’ll find his father is named...
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    As teasie has said, you should get the father’s...

    As teasie has said, you should get the father’s names from the 1854 marriage certificate. However the couples births are before the start of statutory birth registration (1864) and so you won't find...
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    There’s a death for Michael Bowler, aged 0,...

    There’s a death for Michael Bowler, aged 0, registered in Killarney Jan - Mar 1874 Volume 5, Page 257.
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    You can view the civil cert for Thomas &...

    You can view the civil cert for Thomas & Catherine’s marriage in Kilcummin, Co Kerry on 9.2.1873:

    https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

    I do not see a birth for Deborah c 1877 anywhere in...
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    I looked at the Valuation Revision records (on...

    I looked at the Valuation Revision records (on the PRONI website) for Ballydogherty, Co. Armagh covering the years 1875 – 1877. The Fegan family weren’t listed. So that means that either they were...
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    Looking at your Cullen family in the 1901 census...

    Looking at your Cullen family in the 1901 census I see they were Presbyterian. Aghorey is in Kilmore parish so I’d start with churchyards in that general area. There are 3 Presbyterian churches in...
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    In Ireland people aren’t always buried in the...

    In Ireland people aren’t always buried in the graveyard of the church they attended. Sometimes they had family plots in a different churchyard, and many Presbyterian and Reformed Presbyterian...
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    Are you sure the Samuel in the 1861 census is the...

    Are you sure the Samuel in the 1861 census is the same Samuel who was later living in Co. Armagh? That could explain the discrepancy over the place of birth.

    Regarding where Samuel lived prior to...
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    If you look at the 1874 marriage certificate, the...

    If you look at the 1874 marriage certificate, the bride’s father is recorded as deceased. By inference the groom’s father, John Fegan, is alive. If you search the death records for the Newry...
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    I suppose it depends on what information you are...

    I suppose it depends on what information you are looking for. I would expect the same will would be found on both files, so if are just interested in who the beneficiaries are, then it probably...
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    People with assets in Ireland and England also...

    People with assets in Ireland and England also feature in 2 or more probate indexes. The probate file is passed from one jurisdiction to the other for the relevant authority to be granted. The files...
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    It meant the tenant farmed the area in...

    It meant the tenant farmed the area in partnership with some others. You haven’t said what county the records come from in some parts of Ireland it was common to use the rundale system which shared...
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    Statutory birth registration only started in...

    Statutory birth registration only started in Ireland in 1864. Birth certificates for all of Ireland up to 1916 can be viewed free on the irishgenealogy site (click on civil records):
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  22. Alderney marriages and births were not registered...

    Alderney marriages and births were not registered in Ireland. I would say that FamilySearch have got 2 different sets of records mixed up.
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    James grave contains his wife Isabella plus 3...

    James grave contains his wife Isabella plus 3 children including Edward Ross McAlonan who died 9.5.1950 aged 64. For clarity, this is Isabella, born in Scotland in the 1901 Irish census together with...
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    Sorry about the mistake with the census year. ...

    Sorry about the mistake with the census year.

    The delay between death and probate grant isn’t that uncommon. You don’t need probate for every will, even today. If the assets are movable or in...
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    Family in 1901 census: ...

    Family in 1901 census:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Balloolymore/Shannaghan/1201728/

    1911 census:
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