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    Reuben Miles

    I have found a lot of records and newspaper clippings for my above ancestor and added them to the gallery
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tr...07477887/facts

    probably a stupid question but are there any other records that I can find to give me a clue how he got all the property that was sold in his will.

    I can't actually find his first wife as I know he was a widower when he married my ancestor Lydia Thornloe, and I also know he has a step daughter Jane on his death.

    He must have had property early on as found tax record in Brubb Street

    I have a timeline for the newspaper cuttings
    Oct 14 1848
    takes on the Broad Arrow, Milton Street.


    5 March 1851
    Grocers being disposed of


    8 May 1851
    Eating House to let, and empty house and shop


    5 July 1852 for sale
    Broad Arrow public house
    85 & 88 Milton street and 9 Type street
    18 Houses Crown court
    95 Milton street
    12 Houses in Camden Court


    17 November 1853
    Renting out the eating house


    Feb 21 1856 assets for sale following his death:

    2 houses with shops in Type Street, Finsbury
    6 houses in Broad Arrow Court, Milton Street
    Large house and coffee shop, Milton Street
    12 houses adjoining Camden Court


    Was inspired to 'write a story' about him following on from PaulC posts - but can't quite piece him together.
    Carolyn
    http://www.familytree.chatandthat.co.uk/home/

    Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
    Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

    #2
    just realised he married as soon as Lydia died, busy man, and she seems to be related to Lydia as she is a thorneloe!
    Carolyn
    http://www.familytree.chatandthat.co.uk/home/

    Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
    Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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      #3
      I guess no where else to look then?
      Carolyn
      http://www.familytree.chatandthat.co.uk/home/

      Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
      Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
      Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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        #4
        I have been looking Carolyn at the marriages. I note that the Will referring to Reuben's stepdaughter Jane refers to her being maried to William ?? thought it was Edwards or maybe begins with a C of Northampton. What do you think?
        For both marriages to Jane Bullock and Elizabeth Gibbs that Reuben recorded as Bachelor. Jane Bullock is a Widow. Wonder if she was a rich one

        Vera

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          #5
          Thanks Vera, I don't think there is anywhere else to look :( will have to keep searching newspapers - every now and again I have a new look in case I missed something or new papers have come on.

          I have now established that I had the wrong parents for Samuel Wilson (the son in law) by looking over all of this again, so all is not lost. And I now confident I have the right ones now, as Samuels will mentions his brothers. It is Samuel's mother that marries Reuben for the last year of his life! So my Gr gr gr grandmother married my gr gr gr grandfather.

          I did wonder if Jane she had some money as he seems to have gone up in the world! I saw Samuel and made it into Edmunds, but couldn't find any link or any record, I didn't spot the bachelor on the marriages, so Elizabeth must be wrong, although I found no other Reuben Miles in the area and it was the same church.
          Carolyn
          http://www.familytree.chatandthat.co.uk/home/

          Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
          Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
          Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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            #6
            I was looking a bit further up the Will record for Jane's husband. I saw the Edmunds a bit further down. If we could identify Jane's husbands name we may get a marriage and hopefully she is a Bullock. Or is that going round the houses a bit.

            Good you got the right extended family by refreshing.

            Vera

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              #7
              Is the surmane Church?
              Elaine

              Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

              http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
              http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                #8
                Just noting this one as it is the same Church Reuben marries Jane

                https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=successSource

                Name: Ann Bullock
                Gender: Female
                Record Type: Banns (Bann)
                Marriage Banns Date: 17 Sep 1821
                Marriage Banns Place: Christ Church, City of London, England
                Elaine

                Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                  #9
                  Found her, as CHARASH in Northampton

                  1851

                  https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...=try&h=4286134

                  William Charash 56 Cordwainer b Northampton
                  Jana Charash 50 b London
                  William Charash 23 son
                  George Charash 63....13 son
                  Frederick Charash 8
                  James Page 20
                  Banittmin Torydnain 18....Benjamin


                  CHURCH, FREDERICK BULLOCK
                  GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 15 Page 287

                  1841

                  https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...off=&ml_rpos=1

                  William Church 45
                  Jane Church 40
                  Jane Church 15
                  Thomas Church 15
                  William Church 13
                  Ann Church 10
                  George Church 3
                  James Church 1 Mo

                  CHURCH, GEORGE BULLOCK
                  GRO Reference: 1838 J Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 15 Page 306
                  Elaine

                  Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                  http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                  http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                    #10
                    wow - how did you do that :) that is amazing

                    she is older than I thought, Reuben was b 1891 so Jane the elder must be born at least 1880.
                    Carolyn
                    http://www.familytree.chatandthat.co.uk/home/

                    Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
                    Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                    Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                      #11
                      I ended up in 1851 first looking for a William and Jane!

                      Just wasn't sure on a birth date, was also trying to work out a marriage date. What do you think about the Ann Bullock marriage?
                      Elaine

                      Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                      http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                      http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                        #12
                        Just looked at this for her age

                        CHURCH, JANE 67
                        GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in NORTHAMPTON UNION Volume 03B Page 50
                        Elaine

                        Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                        http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                        http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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                          #13
                          the marriage seems to fit, maybe Ann and Jane are used the same, both mine and my sisters middle names!

                          Interesting that they ended back in Northampton as that is the county that Reuben was from
                          Carolyn
                          http://www.familytree.chatandthat.co.uk/home/

                          Researching:Luggs, Freeman - Cornwall; Dayman, Hobbs, Heard - Devon
                          Wilson, Miles - Northants; Brett, Everett, Clark, Allum - Herts/Essex
                          Also interested in Proctor, Woodruff

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                            #14
                            You know what I'm going to say. Nice one Elaine.

                            Hope you are ticking over OK

                            Vera

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                              #15
                              Hi Vera

                              Bloods good today and one more hurdle overcome:)

                              Thanks for asking, hope is all well with you x
                              Elaine

                              Looking for Ward, Moore, Hunt, Warren...and who was Gertrude Wills

                              http://leicestermoores.tribalpages.com
                              http://wardnottsleics.tribalpages.com

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