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    James Jack Esq. Glasgow

    I'm looking for some help with the above person from someone who would know a bit more about Scottish research than me. My 3x great grandfather (Leslie Rankin) married the Daughter of James Jack in 1848 in Garvagh, County Londonderry, Ireland, she was called Margaret. A newspaper posting recording the marriage states that Margaret was the daughter of James Jack Esquire of Glasgow. On the marriage certificate it states James Jack was a 'steward' and that the daughters address was 'Ballintemple' a townland near Garvagh in Ireland. Important to note that Margaret died in 1867 aged 44, making her birth date somewhere between 1822 and 1823.

    I'm just struggling to locate James Jack, as there are so many people with that name in Scottish census returns. I don't think James moved to Ireland at all because there are no death records for him here.

    Anybody that can add a little clarity to my research would be most welcome.

    Thank you.

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      #3
      These are all the baptisms to James JACK and Ann BOWMAN. Hopefully one of them will have had a post 1855 marriage which would give you more details about the parents.

      Surname
      JACK
      Forename
      JAMES
      Parents/ Other Details
      JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4372 (FR4372)
      Gender
      M
      Date
      20/12/1830
      Parish Number
      644/1
      Ref
      330 64
      Parish
      Glasgow

      Surname
      JACK
      Forename
      THOMAS
      Parents/ Other Details
      JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR3881 (FR3881)
      Gender
      M
      Date
      23/08/1824
      Parish Number
      644/1
      Ref
      310 435
      Parish
      Glasgow

      Surname
      JACK
      Forename
      ANN
      Parents/ Other Details
      JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4033 (FR4033)
      Gender
      F
      Date
      02/07/1826
      Parish Number
      644/1
      Ref
      320 159
      Parish
      Glasgow

      Surname
      JACK
      Forename
      ELIZABETH
      Parents/ Other Details
      JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4177 (FR4177)
      Gender
      F
      Date
      20/08/1828
      Parish Number
      644/1
      Ref
      320 445
      Parish
      Glasgow

      Surname
      JACK
      Forename
      JANET
      Parents/ Other Details
      JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR5100 (FR5100)
      Gender
      F
      Date
      21/12/1837
      Parish Number
      644/1
      Ref
      350 137
      Parish

      Surname
      JACK
      Forename
      JEAN
      Parents/ Other Details
      JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4622 (FR4622)
      Gender
      F
      Date
      16/08/1833
      Parish Number
      644/1
      Ref
      330 562
      Parish
      Glasgow

      Surname
      JACK
      Forename
      MARGARET
      Parents/ Other Details
      JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR3626 (FR3626)
      Gender
      F
      Date
      14/09/1821
      Parish Number
      644/1
      Ref
      300 240
      Parish
      Glasgow

      Surname
      JACK
      Forename
      MARION
      Parents/ Other Details
      JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR2575 (FR2575)
      Gender
      F
      Date
      21/10/1819
      Parish Number
      644/1
      Ref
      220 255
      Parish
      Glasgow

      Surname
      JACK
      Forename
      CECILIA
      Parents/ Other Details
      JAMES JACK/ANN BOWMAN FR4858 (FR4858)
      Gender
      F
      Date
      15/10/1835
      Parish Number
      644/1
      Ref
      340 245
      Parish
      Glasgow

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          Last edited by GallowayLass; 03-06-19, 11:35.

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            #6
            There are no entries for that family in 1851 Scotland census. As Margaret married in 1848 in Ireland, I have a sneaking suspicion that the whole family moved over there sometime 1841-1848.

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                #8
                Assuming that death is your Ann this is her baptism.

                Surname
                BOWMAN
                Forename
                ANN
                Parents/ Other Details
                WILLIAM BOWMAN/MARY CAMPBELL FR1728 (FR1728)
                Gender
                F
                Date
                19/11/1795
                Parish Number
                644/1
                Ref
                190 251
                Parish
                Glasgow

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                  #9
                  You see I don't think that's the correct James Jack because on his marriage cert, it says he was a carter. The profession of carter is I believe someone who transports goods by horse drawn cart ? Unless its possible someone with that occupation can have the title of 'esquire' ?

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                    #10
                    what about this 1851 census
                    Record Transcription:
                    1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
                    44, Maxwell Street, St Enochs,Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

                    James Jack Head Married Male 65 1786 Carter Lanarkshire, Scotland
                    Ann Jack Wife Married Female 51 1800 Housekeeper Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
                    Last edited by Katarzyna; 03-06-19, 12:32.
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                      #11
                      Last edited by GallowayLass; 03-06-19, 12:50.

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                        #12
                        Ancestry is playing me up at the moment - I put the exact details from your transcript in ancestry and it couldn't find that one on the 1841 It's happening a lot.
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                          #13
                          These are the only two Lesmahagow baptisms that it could be. Given that the couple only baptised one son and he was called Thomas, I would be inclined to go with the first one and assume the age on the 1851 census transcription is wrong. This one is a very good match for the person b.c.1796 in the 1841 census.

                          Surname
                          JACK
                          Forename
                          JAMES
                          Parents/ Other Details
                          THOMAS JACK/MARGARET FORREST FR377 (FR377)
                          Gender
                          M
                          Date
                          08/06/1794
                          Parish Number
                          649/
                          Ref
                          20 97
                          Parish
                          Lesmahagow

                          Surname
                          JACK
                          Forename
                          JAMES
                          Parents/ Other Details
                          THOMAS JACK/ISOBELL LANG FR358 (FR358)
                          Gender
                          M
                          Date
                          02/06/1788
                          Parish Number
                          649/
                          Ref
                          20 59
                          Parish
                          Lesmahagow

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Katarzyna View Post
                              Ancestry is playing me up at the moment - I put the exact details from your transcript in ancestry and it couldn't find that one on the 1841 It's happening a lot.

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                                #16
                                Thanks for all of this guys, really appreciated. Can a carter have the title of esquire though ? Extra information, Margaret Rankin (Jack) died in Garvagh on 03/06/1867. Are you confident that this is the correct James Jack ?

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                                  Last edited by GallowayLass; 03-06-19, 13:51.

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                                    #18
                                    Courtesy of ScotlandsPeople

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                                      #19
                                      The forum wont let me view any of your attachments. Any idea why ?

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