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    Trace a grave, please

    I am doing some research for a friend who lives in Canada. She desperately wishes to visit her gradfather's grave, but I don't know how I can trace it as i live in the North east, and my knowledge of London is sketchy to say the least.

    The grave I would like to trace is for FREDERICK GRIFFIN born 30/1/1858 in Middlesex. He died on 5/11/1917 aat 32 Charing Cross Road London WC. Does anyone know where he is likely to be buried and who holds the records, please? Any info of where to try next would be welcome. I have written to the family History group, but had no reply.

    Thank you for any help or advice.

    Anne

    #2
    32 Charing Cross Rd is/was a theatre, Wyndhams. Unlikely he actually lived there unless he was theatre staff/management. The DC ought to give his usual address if he didn't live there.

    OC

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      #3
      Originally posted by Olde Crone Holden View Post
      32 Charing Cross Rd is/was a theatre, Wyndhams. Unlikely he actually lived there unless he was theatre staff/management. The DC ought to give his usual address if he didn't live there.

      OC
      Thanks OC. The Information was given by my friend, so I shall take that up with her. I've checked the SCI for deaths and it is registered in St Martins.

      Anne

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        #4
        Anne

        have you got a current sub to Ancestry? have a look at this.. http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/826...son/6032314536

        gives his place of death as Charing Cross Hospital, London, England
        Julie
        They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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          #5
          I was kind of hoping that I could find them in 1911 to see if it gave an address to track him in the Electoral Rolls.. but the only census I can find him on with family is 1901 and he was in Dulwich with his wife Harriet Jane and various children.

          http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...=try&h=3697602
          Julie
          They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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            #6
            But Charing Cross hospital (the old one) was never in Charing Cross Road, it was on a corner of the Strand and I think, Agar St.

            32 Charing Cross Rd has been the home of Wyndham's theatre since 1903, so if he died there, he didn't die in Charing Cross hospital.

            EDIT - maybe he was taken ill at the theatre, pronounced dead at Charing Cross hospital?

            OC
            Last edited by Olde Crone Holden; 09-05-13, 21:47. Reason: Afterthought

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              #7
              The London Cemeteries records may be a good start

              http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/thing...Registers.aspx
              D

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                #8
                Originally posted by Olde Crone Holden View Post
                But Charing Cross hospital (the old one) was never in Charing Cross Road, it was on a corner of the Strand and I think, Agar St.

                32 Charing Cross Rd has been the home of Wyndham's theatre since 1903, so if he died there, he didn't die in Charing Cross hospital.

                EDIT - maybe he was taken ill at the theatre, pronounced dead at Charing Cross hospital?

                OC
                maybe OC, I was just going by the ancestry tree, it'd be helpful though to find him in 1911, though I can't spot him at the moment..
                Julie
                They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                  #9
                  He would have been 59 when he died. The occupation column on the death cert would, perhaps, indicate whether or not he could have resided at the theatre - e.g caretaker. Also cause of death may give some indication as to whether it was sudden, accidental, or a condition which had caused him to be hospitalised. Could you ask your friend for a check on the address given on the cert?
                  Janet in Yorkshire



                  Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                    #10
                    I can't find any members of that 1901 family in 1911:(
                    Janet in Yorkshire



                    Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Janet in Yorkshire View Post
                      I can't find any members of that 1901 family in 1911:(
                      tell me about it Jay :(
                      Julie
                      They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                        #12
                        Ditto !
                        Elaine







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                          #13
                          I think it could be because either there is a surname mis-transcription (although I would have expected some of the older boys to have had their own establishments) or, perhaps, we are missing some background info on the family; e.g the dates of the Canada angle. Frederick senior's job sounds interesting and the sort of thing that could have taken him out of the country over census time, but I don't think they would all have gone with him on a temporary basis??
                          Janet in Yorkshire



                          Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Janet in Yorkshire View Post
                            I think it could be because either there is a surname mis-transcription (although I would have expected some of the older boys to have had their own establishments) or, perhaps, we are missing some background info on the family; e.g the dates of the Canada angle. Frederick senior's job sounds interesting and the sort of thing that could have taken him out of the country over census time, but I don't think they would all have gone with him on a temporary basis??
                            maybe we need to be casting the net a little further then? praps try looking at passenger lists etc.. I think I found somewhere that Harriet Jane died in Canada, so maybe that is the place to look?
                            Julie
                            They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                              #15
                              There is a Magdaline Griffin (b1886) shown on the Canadian Passenger Lists - travelling to Montreal Quebec, date of arrival 21 June 1909.
                              The writing is not clear but looks like she was heading to - brother farmer
                              Elaine







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                                #16
                                there is this one but it is for 1920 and it states that Harriet is joining her sister in ONT canada, though she was detained for some reason..

                                http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...dianPL&indiv=1
                                Julie
                                They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                                  #17
                                  1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta


                                  Household of
                                  John H Griffin 25 (head of household - occ. farmer)
                                  Magdeline Griffin 29
                                  Douglas Griffin 24
                                  Grace Griffin 15

                                  Year of immigration for John, Magdeline and Douglas - 1907
                                  Year of immigration for Grace - 1910
                                  Elaine







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                                    #18
                                    Ahhhhhhhhhhh

                                    1910 going to SON a Farmer she has two children with her, it states that Husband is to join later!

                                    http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...dianPL&indiv=1
                                    Julie
                                    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

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                                      #19
                                      Canadian passengers lists for 1910 show Harriett, Ruth and Grace travelling together.
                                      Frederick not shown - although it indicates "to son farmer - husband later
                                      Elaine







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                                        #20
                                        Snap!

                                        The question is "did he ever go" ?
                                        Elaine







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