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  • #21
    Originally posted by Elaine ..Spain View Post
    Snap!

    The question is "did he ever go" ?
    not sure but in Dec 1917 Harriet is going back to Canada, with Ruth and also Joan Barbara aged 4.. [Harriet is stated as widow].. maybe she came back to arrange his funeral etc..??

    Julie
    They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

    .......I find dead people

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    • #22
      thanks a lot everyone. I can't find the family on the 1911 census either. According to the 1901 census he was an 'inventor', butI don't know what he invented!!


      accordng to the SCI of deaths, his death was registered in St martin. - I don't know whether this covers Charing cross - ether hospital or road!

      i have e-mailed my friend to check the aaddress on death, and suggested we get the death cert above. I've also asked if he ever went to Canada, which might explain the absence of the 1911 census, but there is no record as far as I can see of travelling there. His wife was Harriet nee Gow, and she died in Canada I think it was thr 1940s. Frederick died on 5th November so Harriet and the family may have gone out then.

      thank you for the sites suggested, I will try them. I do have Ancestry, but have drawn blanks so far

      Anne
      Last edited by Wor canny Lass; 10-05-13, 09:45.

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      • #23
        just a thought, if he was an inventor and he died in London, then wouldn't there be something in the newspapers? [I can't help out there cos I have no idea how to look in them!!]
        Julie
        They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

        .......I find dead people

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        • #24
          have you seen this? might be worthwhile contacting them

          Julie
          They're coming to take me away haha hee hee..........

          .......I find dead people

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          • #25
            The 1901 census return transcription has Frederick's occupation as "Inventor's model maker," which is not the same thing as "inventor" - sounds as if he had engineering skills and perhaps created the prototypes, transforming the inventors ideas into working artifacts. Or, he could have worked on producing scaled down demonstration models, which could be carried around by a rep (or himself acting as a "commission agent" - a term used I think for commercial traveller selling on commission, rather than a commission agent, "turf accountant"/bookie.)
            Janet in Yorkshire



            Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Janet in Yorkshire View Post
              The 1901 census return transcription has Frederick's occupation as "Inventor's model maker," which is not the same thing as "inventor" - sounds as if he had engineering skills and perhaps created the prototypes, transforming the inventors ideas into working artifacts. Or, he could have worked on producing scaled down demonstration models, which could be carried around by a rep (or himself acting as a "commission agent" - a term used I think for commercial traveller selling on commission, rather than a commission agent, "turf accountant"/bookie.)
              and in 1891 his occupation is Inventor - Scient :conf:

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              Julie
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              • #27
                Originally posted by Darksecretz View Post
                just a thought, if he was an inventor and he died in London, then wouldn't there be something in the newspapers? [I can't help out there cos I have no idea how to look in them!!]
                I did have a quick look at the newspapers but nothing jumped out at me! I'll take another look.

                Update - can't see anything in the newspapers.
                Last edited by Elaine ..Spain; 10-05-13, 11:11. Reason: added update
                Elaine







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                • #29
                  I didn't see anything in the newspapers, although I only tried 1917, the year of his death.
                  Janet in Yorkshire



                  Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                  • #31
                    Hello everyone,

                    Francis is going to scan her grandfather;s death cert and send it to me his weekend, She is travelling to Sweden this weekend, so may not have have the time.

                    About her grandfather's inventions she says -

                    My inventor grandfather invented the safety pin, the gun sight (stolen by an
                    American as he did not patent it) and a bicycle that all his five children
                    rode on at once. I think they had photo taken for the Times paper as they
                    used to ride around their streets. In 1891 they lived on Regent Street -
                    address is a pharmacy now. Wish I'd asked dad more about the family but
                    when you are young you don't realize how important it is.

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                    • #32
                      Both Wyndhams Theatre and the old Charing Cross Hospital were in the postal district WC2 and Charing Cross would have been the nearest hospital to Wyndhams, if you were taken ill there. St Martins is the correct registration district for both places.

                      I suppose it's possible there were residential flats at the top of the theatre but I would have expected them to have their own house numbers.

                      OC

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                      • #33
                        Hi There,

                        Check out the website - www.londonburials.co.uk.

                        It is a facinating and fantastic site .

                        bcbrit
                        George, Uren, Toy - Cornwall. Barrows, Blair, Bowyer, Freeth, Green, Manie - London

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                        • #34
                          The reason I've been doggedly banging on about the addresses on the death cert is because, if they are correct, then they are no indicator of where he actually LIVED and therefore, no indicator of where he might be buried.

                          He could also have been cremated.

                          EDIT - The actual wording on the death cert will be helpful, let's hope!

                          OC
                          Last edited by Olde Crone Holden; 10-05-13, 21:43. Reason: Afterthought

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                          • #35
                            yes, OC, that's what I think - where did he live? Hopefully, the death cert will have an address, but another friend told me that his death was registered by a sister-in-law, who lived elsewhere!! This friend also said that he died in Charing Cross hospital. He was definitely buried.

                            Still waiting for the cert.

                            Thank you everyone for all your helpful advice.

                            Anne

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                            • #36
                              Won't the address of the informant (as well as her name) be on the death cert? Interesting that a non-blood relative registered the death - wonder if immediate relatives were out of the country? Sister-in-law, technically, could be wife of deceased's brother or sister of deceased's wife. Perhaps chasing up her connection will give a clue.
                              Janet in Yorkshire



                              Genealogists never die - they just swap places in the family tree

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                              • #37
                                Ah, the informant may have got the address wrong then. The hospital would have 32 Charing Cross Rd as his "last address" because that was where he was admitted from.

                                If he was DOA at the hospital though, how did they know to contact his sister in law?

                                OC

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