Smith family lost in 1851!

[Elaine ..Spain]

I am trying to trace this SMITH family in the 1861 & 1851 census

1871 census:
RG10; Piece: 3571; Folio: 59; Page: 18
Is Eliza’s place of birth London – image not clear!
Son William – age I think should be 24 rather than 34.

Tracing back to 1861, the best match is:
RG9; Piece: 2499; Folio: 113; Page: 21
Would you agree?

Struggling for 1851 – any suggestions!

[Georgette]

I'd say William is definitely 24 and not 34.

Eliza's birth place is more difficult, but it doesn't look like London

[Georgette]

The family in 1861 does look like a good match.

[Darksecretz]

Elaine

1871 census:

Is Eliza’s place of birth London – looks very much like London to me,

Son William – age is 24

[Darksecretz]

and yes,

I'd agree with the 1861 as well

pity it doesnt give a POB for eliza though....

[Darksecretz]

1851???

Class: HO107; Piece: 2067; Folio: 404; Page: 29

in coventry... warks.

[Darksecretz]

and perhaps this for 41

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 199; Book: 18; Civil Parish: St Werburgh; County: Derbyshire; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 21; Page: 37; Line: 3;

do you have a marriage for joseph and emma Elaine??

[Elaine ..Spain]

I keep coming back to that one in 1851 Julie.
The parents fit OK but although the children's names are right, the ages are a bit muddled!

Why do they make it so difficult! :(

[Elaine ..Spain]

Yes I saw the 1841 as well Julie.

It's not one of mine - trying to help out one of our newbies in our local genealogy group. It's difficult enough when you are a beginner but then having to trace a Smith back! The problem is it is Eliza she is interested in - and it seems odd that she has one census without a place of birth, and the other census as being born in London. In later censuses when she is married she gives place of birth as Derby. I am sure it is the right family as her marriage certificate shows father as Joseph, occupation Trimming Maker, which matches the 1861 census.

[Darksecretz]

I see what you mean,

i'd say thats pretty much it though, what you/me have found, trouble is there is very little Derbyshire PR's about..

If she was born in london, (which it does look like to me) then they moved back to derby when she was very little, she would think her POB was derby???

[Little Nell]

How interesting, I have a Smith family missing in 1851 as well! Sadly no relation of yours!