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  • two quick census look ups please

    Name Henry Playford born c1840 in Docking Norfolk
    Wife Fanny born c1840

    They married Dec qtr 1861
    I have 1881 image with a son (William) and they are on 1901 with another son Cyril.

    Can someone find them on 1871 and 1891 to see if any other children?

    Thanks
    Avatar is my Gt Grandfather

    Researching:
    FRANKLIN (Harrow/Pinner 1700 to 1850); PURSGLOVE (ALL Southern counties of England); POOLE (Tetbury/Malmesbury and surrounding areas of Gloucestershire and Wiltshire (1650 to 1900); READ London/Suffolk

  • #2
    1871

    Henry and Fanny have three children

    Hannah b 1863
    James b 1864
    William b 1866

    All born Docking

    1881 has only William but the others are old enough to be elswhere so may be still alive.

    1891

    Only Henry and Fanny with Chalres C Playford age 3 (born Manchester) grandson.

    Could be Hannah's son or one of the boys'

    I have the grandchildren but will have a look and try to work it out later.

    Or do you know???

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    • #3
      1891 definitely has Charles C Playford born Manchester.

      By 1901 he is Cyril born Docking. Still with Henry and Fanny.

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      • #4
        There's a birth for Charles Cyril E. Playford, Jun 1888, Manchester, 8d, 238
        Fiona. xx

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        • #5
          Found him....might be worth buying the cert...

          Charles Cyril E Playford born Q2 1888 Manchester 8d 238.

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          • #6
            Snap Fiona.

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            • #7
              1891 Class: RG12; Piece: 1562; Folio 76; Page 6; GSU roll: 6096672.

              King William (nothing else)

              Henry and Fanny both 50 - Ag Lab - Docking
              Grandson Charles E Playford age 3 born Manchester

              1871 Class: RG10; Piece: 1858; Folio: 59; Page: 7; GSU roll: 838816.

              Paradise (nothing else)

              Henry & Fanny 30
              Hannah 8
              James 7
              William 5

              1861 Class: RG9; Piece: 1250; Folio: 42; Page: 23; GSU roll: 542783.

              With parents Thornham Rd

              John 51 Farm Carter b Docking
              Rose 53 b Sedgeford
              Henry 21 Ag Lab b Docking
              John 15 Farm Carter b Docking
              Mary 18 b Docking

              1851 Class: HO107; Piece: 1827; Folio: 465; Page: 35; GSU

              with parents 129 Somerfield House

              John 41 Ag Lab
              Rose 44
              James 17
              Edward 14 in farmers employ
              Henry 11 in farmers employ
              Mary 8
              John 5
              Last edited by JBee; 23-09-08, 01:54.



              Researching Irish families: FARMER, McBRIDE McQUADE, McQUAID, KIRK, SANDS/SANAHAN (Cork), BARR,

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              • #8
                1841 Class: HO107; Piece 782; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Docking; County: Norfolk; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 15; Page: 23; Line: 17; GSU roll: 438865.

                doesn't appear to be an address just Docking

                John 35 Ag Lab
                Rose 35
                James 6
                Edward 5
                Henry 2



                Researching Irish families: FARMER, McBRIDE McQUADE, McQUAID, KIRK, SANDS/SANAHAN (Cork), BARR,

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                • #9
                  I have found James' death in 1876
                  BMD Docking Sep 4b 206

                  So the Cyril would be either, son of William (But I have no idea of a marriage) or Hannah (Illegitimate). As he lives at grand parents we could assume Illegitimate.
                  But why the birth up im Manchester??
                  None of the Playfords have been any further North than Kings Lynn.

                  Where's William on 1891?

                  I think Hannah was in service, but there were two Hannahs from Docking born at the same time (Typical)
                  Last edited by TrevorFranklin; 23-09-08, 02:04.
                  Avatar is my Gt Grandfather

                  Researching:
                  FRANKLIN (Harrow/Pinner 1700 to 1850); PURSGLOVE (ALL Southern counties of England); POOLE (Tetbury/Malmesbury and surrounding areas of Gloucestershire and Wiltshire (1650 to 1900); READ London/Suffolk

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                  • #10
                    It doesn't give a county just Manchester unlike the other entries on the page and subsequent pages - even London has a place next to it.

                    Thought perhaps it might be a local place with similar name which could have been mis-spelt but then it would have the county next to it.

                    1891 Class: RG12; Piece: 3344; Folio 83; Page 14; GSU roll: 6098454.
                    There's a Hannah Playford in Spotland, Lancashire born Docking

                    She's head of the family all born Norfolk except Emma

                    Charlotte Playford 23
                    Emma Playford 13
                    Hannah Playford 48
                    Harry Playford 19
                    James Playford 18
                    John Playford 20
                    Matilda Playford 22
                    Neddy Playford 15
                    Last edited by JBee; 23-09-08, 02:20.



                    Researching Irish families: FARMER, McBRIDE McQUADE, McQUAID, KIRK, SANDS/SANAHAN (Cork), BARR,

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                    • #11
                      Think this could be William on the 1901 census, but only gives county not town for place of birth.
                      Any chance of a 1891 census look-up??

                      Forename(s) Lastname Age Year Born Where Born Civil Parish Administrative County Occupation
                      William Playford 35 1866 Norfolk Paddington London Sweeper Parish
                      Anna Playford 33 1868 Bucks Paddington London
                      William Playford 14 1887 London Paddington London Juvenile
                      Anna Playford 12 1889 London Paddington London Juvenile
                      John Playford 9 1892 London Paddington London Juvenile
                      George Playford 6 1895 London Paddington London Juvenile
                      Avatar is my Gt Grandfather

                      Researching:
                      FRANKLIN (Harrow/Pinner 1700 to 1850); PURSGLOVE (ALL Southern counties of England); POOLE (Tetbury/Malmesbury and surrounding areas of Gloucestershire and Wiltshire (1650 to 1900); READ London/Suffolk

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                      • #12
                        There is also a W Playford in Yorkshire, single living as nephew with a Taylor family.

                        RG13; Piece: 4213; Folio: 81; Page: 25
                        Fiona. xx

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                        • #13
                          Do you have any idea who Hannah married?
                          Fiona. xx

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                          • #14
                            1891 Class: RG12; Piece: 487; Folio 51; Page 14; GSU roll: 6095597.

                            Maria J Playford 24
                            William A Playford 25 Licenced Vitualler b Docking, Norfolk

                            living 4 Wyndham Rd, Camberwell, London



                            Researching Irish families: FARMER, McBRIDE McQUADE, McQUAID, KIRK, SANDS/SANAHAN (Cork), BARR,

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                            • #15
                              Definitely Manchester. It's in the complete index. That's why I put the reference so you could buy it. It will sort who his mother is at least.

                              there are a few William Playford marriages that could be suitable for little Charles/Cyril, but you'll never tell without the birth cert.

                              What's interesting is that he has his full name in 1891 with correct place of birth, but by 1901 he's Cyril born Docking.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Harrys mum View Post
                                What's interesting is that he has his full name in 1891 with correct place of birth, but by 1901 he's Cyril born Docking.
                                Could depend on who filled in the census form.
                                Uncle John - Passed away March 2020

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