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  • #41
    Jess, Have you tried for a remarriage after 1983??

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    • #42
      no - was looking for birth to the daughter & her husband- nowt upto end 76

      boy with the rope has appeared now!

      no, the daughter - with the tuneful name - doesn't appear to re-marry84-2004
      Last edited by Jessbowbag; 28-12-07, 22:35.
      Jess

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      • #43
        No remarriage for tuneful or her OH after 1983. No death for tuneful (didn't check OH)

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        • #44
          Help I'll join you Jool's and it is only 9.30 am. in North Queensland. Why can't my family be normal ??? this is the 3rd or 4th time I've had to come to you all for help. And I thought it would be fun to have a real family with a real family tree pmsl..:o
          I will take a hard copy of all that's on the thread, have a cuppa and read while you all sleep "up there ". Thanks again I'll wait for tonight my time with baited breath
          Sheila
          I think, therefore I am. Descarte

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          • #45
            Oh, if you google her name (tuneful) you will find her!

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            • #46
              O K there we go This is what I know :o

              Rose Frances Bailey( My Great Aunt ) married Albert Victor Eaton Handscomb in Wandsworth in 1911 I have the GRO Copy of Marriage they had 4 children
              Rose in 1911 ( they JUST you down the aisle )
              Kenneth 1922
              Cyril 1923
              Violet 1926 She married John S Mussell in Bishop's Strotford in 1947
              there is a "Tuneful" Daughter "
              But it is John S Mussell I wanted to find his death, to see if Violet married again

              I'll try to Google Merry

              Sheila
              Last edited by Sheila from Down Under; 29-12-07, 02:07.
              I think, therefore I am. Descarte

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              • #47
                Merry I have pm'ed you
                I think, therefore I am. Descarte

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                • #48
                  Jess What do you mean in Link 11 about John Sydney ????

                  AND I am sorry to say I have checked BMD for 1905 1906 1907 and there was NOT a Handscomb listed the we want that can not be her SORRY This is why I would like to find John S, :o
                  Sheila
                  I think, therefore I am. Descarte

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                  • #49
                    We'd all like to find John *Blessed* S - we cant.....

                    is there anyone at all that you can prod for more info?

                    anyone around that might have gone to the funeral - if so - was the daughter there? how sort of old?

                    Even if we find he died in , lets say 1961- that wont tell you if she remarried.

                    I'm seriously starting to think that ''gassed himself' is a euphamism for 'ran off with his lady friend'

                    Have you got access to ancestry Sheila?
                    Last edited by Jessbowbag; 29-12-07, 08:15.
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                    • #50
                      getting desperate here!
                      Deaths

                      1948-
                      q1-none
                      q2-no males
                      q3 - no males
                      q4 Walter J age 71 new forest

                      1949
                      Q2 Charles - I o W/ Ernest - Surrey N
                      Q3 No males - but a May - Hove ( Edith , Ellen & Jane)
                      Q4 Amelia

                      1950
                      Q1 Ernest salisbury
                      q2 Bertha/George/John -age 51 liverpool
                      q3 Florence /Henry/ Mary
                      q4 Athur/Herbert

                      1951
                      Last edited by Jessbowbag; 29-12-07, 14:08.
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                      • #51
                        Good Morning Jess, While you were in the "land of Nod " OH and I tried for find out what we could and the Violet Mussell that was listed was not the right one as, I BMD "ed 1905-06-07 and there was not a Handscomb that we want, so that was wrong, there seems to be at last 12/13 years differance in age between John and Violet,we have looked BMD from 1947 until 1963 for death of both , it looks as if they could be still alive, but if John S was born 1913 I do'nt think he could be
                        I think that is it Off to watch TV for 1 hour
                        Sheila
                        I think, therefore I am. Descarte

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                        • #52
                          I thought they were both deffo dead?

                          Well, Tuneful daughters husband seems to be alive and kicking, and selling glass in Hove - there is even a telephone number if you want it

                          and he is on a GR tree.
                          Last edited by Jessbowbag; 29-12-07, 08:53.
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                          • #53
                            Sheila - you know so little about either of them, its almost hopeless - we seem to be guessing all the time!

                            do you have the 1947(?) wedding cert?where V marries J?

                            I dont understand why your Violet-born Croyden & John - supposed born Sussex , married in Herfordshire
                            Last edited by Jessbowbag; 29-12-07, 09:59.
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                            • #54
                              Jess Albert Victor Eaton Handscomb Born 1888 died 1951
                              Rose F M Bailey Born 1891 died 1967
                              Married 30 Aug : Wandsworth 1911
                              they had 4 children Rose F M. Born 1911
                              Kenneth W A. born 1922
                              Cyril V. born 1923 and
                              Violet M E. born 1926 that is them
                              I will now go onto GR to see if I can find Tuneful's husband. I wish us all luck
                              Sheila
                              I think, therefore I am. Descarte

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                              • #55
                                I am as in the dark as you, I have just been " over the road " and contacted a couple of people with tuneful's married name, so I'll see what happens. I think you could be right about John S and his euphemism , it sound right for my family 3 only just got up the ailes in time and 1 the water was boiling by the time she came back down . 1 left and ran away with the Romany gipsy , 2 were at the Old Bailey and whipped for a crime, so you see Jess I would put nothing past my lot pmsl
                                Sheila
                                I think, therefore I am. Descarte

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                                • #56
                                  did you contact the Anthony that i guess is her husband?
                                  Jess

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                                  • #57
                                    Yes I did Jess, along with 3 others with tuneful's surname I'll let you know the outcome

                                    It is now10.30 Down under so I am off to bed Thank you very much for your help
                                    Sheila
                                    Last edited by Sheila from Down Under; 29-12-07, 11:35.
                                    I think, therefore I am. Descarte

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                                    • #58
                                      Her Married name or maiden name?
                                      Jess

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                                      • #59
                                        Sorry I do not understand Jess I made contact under her husbands name ,is that what you mean ???
                                        S
                                        I think, therefore I am. Descarte

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                                        • #60
                                          fact - violet didnt re-marry in the name of Mussell , well, not in England anyway - she may have used her maiden/or first married name, but have checked from 1948>>>> 2004 not one marriage for a Violet Mussell
                                          Jess

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