Chris or Lyn.......NZ question.

[Lyn A]

Hi Lyn,

So to answer your question.............if one of Patrick Bowler's (senior) brothers went to NZ, then 1853 could be about perfect. I did find one "Mr Bowler" on a passenger list around that time, but can't get any more info on him.

Libby.

I found a Richard Bowler, died 1911 aged 91. Could be the mr Bowler of 1853.

[Harrys mum]

Yes I did get Cornelius' burial thanks.

Not sure about the others. I'll try to work it out.

[Lyn A]

You're welcome....did you get Cornelius' burial record?

I did wonder about the Terence, Daniel & Timothy as well.

[Harrys mum]

OOOOOHH Lyn..............didn't think to open the names duh!!!!

Yes that Michael is my grandfather!!! How lovely.

Thank you.

[Harrys mum]

Lyn...........Cornelius Patrick is my grandfather's brother. Not sure about any of the others.
My grandfather was Michael Bowler and did serve with the NZ ANZACS but he came to Australia about 1925 and lived till 1972, so that wouldn't be him on the Cenotaph site, would it??

[Lyn A]

Are any of these yours, Libby?

Auckland War Memorial Museum Cenotaph Database

Cornelius Patrick is buried at Eltham...search here:

Cemetery Register

[Harrys mum]

Thanks Lyn.........
I have visitors for dinner, but will try to get back later.

I have quite a few in Te Henui cemetery. I have a photo of the headstone, but they are Bowlers. Not sure of the Kirbys or Husseys, but the families are mostly North Island.

Libby.

[Lyn A]

Hi Lyn,

I did find one "Mr Bowler" on a passenger list around that time, but can't get any more info on him.

Libby.

Sounds like the same one I found!! LOL!!

I have to go & put dinner on...have just spent 2hrs yakking to my sister in Rockingham, so haven't done what I wanted this afternoon. I was planning to look at a few more passenger lists & then do some hunting of cemeteries for my rellies...will include your Bowlers in my searches.

Fingers crossed...if I can't find mine, maybe I can find yours! ;)

[Harrys mum]

Hi Lyn,

I have (from PRs in Kerry, so should be correct):

Baptisms for the children of Patrick Bowler and Deborah Brosnan

Mary 1848
John 1849
John 1850 (I'd say the first one died)
Patrick 1852
Michael 1852
Margaret 1857.

John and Patrick went to NZ so I think not before about 1870??
However, I get the impression there could have been an uncle (also Bolwer) already in NZ.
John married Brigid Kirby (not sure where or when).
Patrick married Hannah Londrigan 1883 in Wanganui.

Mary Bowler b.1848 married Michael Hussey in 1868 in Kerry. They had a daughters, Deborah and Johanna born 1869 and 1870ish. There were also sons.

Michael Hussey was murdered (mistaken idendity) in a field in Farranfore, Kerry. Not sure of the year, but his two daughters were sent to thier uncles in NZ as there was no dowry for them. The Hussey sons took over the family farm in Kerry.


So to answer your question.............if one of Patrick Bowler's (senior) brothers went to NZ, then 1853 could be about perfect. I did find one "Mr Bowler" on a passenger list around that time, but can't get any more info on him.

Libby.

[Lyn A]

And who are your Husseys?

[Lyn A]

OK guys.......while you're looking......I'll have any Bowlers, Londrigans, Husseys.

Thanks, I'll pop back later and see what you've found. LOLOLOLOL

Libby, Would 1853 be too early for your Bowlers?

[Harrys mum]

Pippa...................see if they are related to a fellow who was murdered in a field in Ireland.................some time in the 1800s?

They'll know....it would have been big news....wouldn't it? lol

[Lyn A]

Just as an extra I work with 2 Husseys!

Ooo, Pippa, don't think I fancy your job!!!! LOL!!!! :D

[Pippa Doll]

Just as an extra I work with 2 Husseys!

[Harrys mum]

Thanks Jackie...............haven't seen that one!!!

As soon as grandson leaves, you know where I'll be.

Libby.

[Jacqueline]

Have you tried the ships list..Ive found quite a few Kiwi connections there.

TheShipsList: Passengers, Ships, Shipwrecks

Jackie ( ex KIWI )

[Harrys mum]

OK guys.......while you're looking......I'll have any Bowlers, Londrigans, Husseys.

Thanks, I'll pop back later and see what you've found. LOLOLOLOL

[KiwiChris]

They are indeed, and I saw them! But I need some Corbetts arriving about 1855/6. There are some earlier that are mine but I need their parents.

[Lyn A]

That is a new one for me Lyn, but wouldn't you know it, the sailings that some of my lot may have been on do not have passenger lists! :D

The Feeks are there!! They are yours, aren't they?

[Harrys mum]

I did!!!!lol