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    Anybody help with German Records

    Would really appreciate some help with my Great Grandfather, Adam Muller, have never been able to get back from the first time he appears in 1877 marrying my Great Grandmother Emily Kemp

    Adam Muller
    on marriage he says he is full age a Dyer and Father a Turner

    he was born abt 1852 Germany.

    Any tiniest bit of help would be so appreciated thanks.

    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...97/edit/record


    Val

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    Val ..............

    Have you looked an Family Search. That's where I've found quite a lot of German/Polish etc records?

    Was he naturalized? It may be possible to find the papers.

    Once or twice, I've managed to find an entry into England, though I've forgotten where I found the record. Perhaps on FMP???
    My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

    Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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      #3
      Is this him in 1891??

      Because now he says he's a Musician. In 1881 He said he was a Dyer of Seal Skin Fur


      Adam Muller Head Married Male 39 1852 Musician Germany
      Emily Muller Wife Married Female 30 1861 - London, Middlesex
      Charles Muller Son - Male 12 1879 Boot Maker London, Middlesex
      Elizabeth Muller Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar London, Middlesex
      Alexander Muller Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Poplar, Middlesex
      Rose Muller Daughter - Female 2 1889 - London, Middlesex

      Lived on Nelson Street, Mile End Old Town
      My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

      Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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        #4
        I looked at Apprentice tax records, London Freedoms, and All UK, Naturalisation Certificates and Declarations - no joy, but it never hurts for someone else to take another look.

        Val, can you find him in directories?
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          #5
          His name could be Muller with an umlaut over the u, or written Mueller
          My grandmother, on the beach, South Bay, Scarborough, undated photo (poss. 1929 or 1930)

          Researching Cadd, Schofield, Cottrell in Lancashire, Buckinghamshire; Taylor, Park in Westmorland; Hayhurst in Yorkshire, Westmorland, Lancashire; Hughes, Roberts in Wales.

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            #6
            Thanks all , and Sylvia I do have him after the marriage and up to his death and burial, just would love to find him before 1877.

            also should have said Father was also Adam Mueller/Muller

            Never found any naturalisation records, nothing.


            Val

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              #7
              If you have him after marriage, do subsequent censuses give any more details in Germany for his place of birth?
              Elizabeth
              Research Interests:
              England:Purkis, Stilwell, Quintrell, White (Surrey - Guildford), Jeffcoat, Bond, Alexander, Lamb, Newton (Lincolnshire, Stalybridge, London)
              Scotland:Richardson (Banffshire), Wishart (Kincardineshire), Johnston (Kincardineshire)

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                #8
                Thanks for responding Elizabeth, no nothing, and not knowing what his trade was before he came here ,and also not understanding German, I dont know which may be him on passenger lists etc.


                Val

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                  #9
                  if you've got any German stuff you don't. understand val, id be happy to help.

                  I've got a similar situation....2 German born immigrants marrying in poplar. around this time.

                  luckily, I do have birth places for one side, but not for the other

                  the problem with both unknowns is that we've both got very common German surnames....müller and dreher ....im meeting a friend tomorrow who's much better at this stuff than I am and she's managed to find her husbands German family to way back in germany who came to Britain at a similar time, so ill pick her brains.

                  good luck

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                    #10
                    ooh greyingrey that would be great,
                    I know this is going to sound stupid but, if he came here from Germany ,would he have gone to America first, what would the route be?
                    And is this the German word for Turner?? Besetzung
                    thanks


                    Val

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